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Canadianizing the Golden State
Reason ^ | March 3, 2006 | Ronald Bailey

Posted on 03/03/2006 12:42:57 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

If the state is going to pay for health care, then the state gets to make health care decisions. It will only be a matter of time when we learn of a situation where state beaurocrats are insisting on pulling the plug on a devote Catholic over the expressed wishes of his family. Next, the state will try to pressure pregnant women into having an abortion if tests show the child they are carrying is likely to have Downs Syndrome or some other "expensive" defect.


21 posted on 03/03/2006 1:47:22 PM PST by bobjam
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To: Lancey Howard
civilized America

Texas and Alaska?

22 posted on 03/03/2006 1:49:20 PM PST by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: neverdem
Calinanda.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

23 posted on 03/03/2006 1:52:32 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
Kuehl is your typical openly lesbian totalitarian hag who operates by dictatorial powers and removal of all personal liberties. I find the behavior of monsters like her to be predictable but amazingly hypocritical and ironic.


24 posted on 03/03/2006 1:58:47 PM PST by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: neverdem
...I predict that many Californians will similarly be fleeing across the border into Arizona and Nevada looking for modern private medical care in state-of-the-art hospitals and clinics.

If this monstrosity is enacted, they would be exceedingly stupid if they didn't flee from that state to seek permanent new residences.

25 posted on 03/03/2006 2:08:54 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: neverdem

"Her bill, if enacted, would abolish all private health insurance in the Golden State."

Holy Sh**

I never thought the Marxists would ever be so blatant in their hostility toward freedom of choice, freedom of the market...freedom period. Unbelievable.


26 posted on 03/03/2006 2:24:52 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: neverdem
I predict that many Californians will similarly be fleeing across the border into Arizona and Nevada

Apart from this nonsense, Nevada and Arizona are not far behind California in falling prey to the "Conservative State Dominated by Liberal Cities" Syndrome. The closest state to California that, for a conservative, is even worth thinking about moving to is Idaho.

27 posted on 03/03/2006 2:25:37 PM PST by atomic_dog
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To: neverdem
Aren't these Lefties the same ones that are always screaming with red faces about the evils of monopolies, of big-business threats to competition, of supporting the local, organic farmer and corner store rather than the mega-stores?
28 posted on 03/03/2006 2:26:34 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: massgopguy

No, you'll simply be refused treatment. But that won't matter anyway. The line of illegals and welfare recipients will be so long, you'd be able to drive to a free state before seeing a doctor.


29 posted on 03/03/2006 2:31:05 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: bobjam
If the state is going to pay for health care, then the state gets to make health care decisions.

How right you are. A friend of my father saw his wife die of breast cancer in England because she was too far down the list to get chemotherapy. Nationalized health care is a disaster for everyone except the government bureaucrats who run it.
30 posted on 03/03/2006 2:39:15 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: atomic_dog

Apparently, the leftists are moving in and taking over Boise, as they did Seattle. So even Idaho isn't safe.

CWII anyone?


31 posted on 03/03/2006 2:57:41 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
That wasn't a call-to-arms.

Our Founding Fathers expressly tried to protect outlying areas from the centrist tendencies of urban areas. When this was violated, CW broke out.

What they are doing to the state of Washington is a crime. It is nothing less than legal theft. How can a majority in a small city like Seattle dictate to every corner of the state?
32 posted on 03/03/2006 3:00:10 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Lancey Howard; ALOHA RONNIE; Travis McGee; goldstategop
I agree with you - - civilized America should set up mine fields all along the border to keep Kalifornians in their own state. Claymores all over the place.

I tried looking for a schematic of an automatic ambush with a Claymore, but all I found was this.

33 posted on 03/03/2006 3:23:45 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ping.


34 posted on 03/03/2006 3:24:20 PM PST by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: neverdem

They've already done this on the UC and State university campuses.


35 posted on 03/03/2006 3:25:14 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
This is already happening to patients with Medi-Cal insurance.
37 posted on 03/03/2006 9:32:03 PM PST by pterional
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To: mikeybaby
Canadian woman getting drunk (no problem with that) and then having a friend pull out one of her teeth

Well , she was drunk and stupid. Canadian health care does not cover dental work . No check ups , no extractions , no fillings .

38 posted on 03/04/2006 7:13:18 AM PST by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman

My fault-I don't know if you're correct(I assume you are), but it was England, not Canada-see below:

Desperate dentistry: Woman pulls tooth with pliers (Socialized Medicine Alert)
Daily Mail ^ | 3/3/06


Posted on 03/03/2006 11:01:00 AM PST by iPod Shuffle


Desperate dentistry: Woman pulls tooth with pliers

08:18am 3rd March 2006

A woman told today how she got a friend to pull out one of her teeth with a pair of pliers and filmed the gruesome process on a mobile phone after failing to find an NHS dentist.

Diane Hunter, 45, described how she became so exasperated after two years of toothache she opted for a DIY option.

"In the end I just got really drunk and got a friend to pull it out with a pair of big pliers," she told the Bradford Telegraph and Argus.

"There was a lots of blood but I just needed the tooth out - it was causing me great pain and it still is."

Failed search for NHS care

Miss Hunter, who lives in the Listerhills area of Bradford, said she has not seen a dentist for more than 20 years and failed in her search for any offering NHS care.

She said she first tried the old schoolboy trick of tying one end of a piece of string around her tooth and the other around a door handle before slamming the door but it did not work.

Miss Hunter told the paper she would never pull her own teeth out again.

"I was going to do it again but I showed a nurse at the doctor's surgery what I had done and she said it could cause a heart attack," she said.

She even went to hospital for help at one point but was never given anything more than paracetamol.

Her friend performed the DIY dentistry about six months ago.


39 posted on 03/04/2006 7:28:26 AM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
The same here in Colorado. Colorado has basically been californicated with our now Democrat controlled legislature. They are now pushing for more California type of laws such as primary seat-belt enforcement and might succeed this year, domestic partnerships for queers for example.
40 posted on 03/04/2006 7:30:05 AM PST by CORedneck
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