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To: Non-Sequitur
[me] And where's the part about "betrayal"?

[thee] You tell me.

No, you tell me -- you guys used the word "betrayal". I want you to explain to me how General Lee's letter supports the notion of "betrayal," as in, "Benedict Arnold" or "Vidkun Quisling" or maybe "Anthony Blount".

Demarche, I'd believe. "Bad idea," I'd believe. "Poor policy," or any number of synonyms -- after all, that's what Madison, Washington, Franklin, and others thought of disunion, and even federal union. They wanted a centralized state. They didn't get it, and the actions of Lincoln's faction in 1859-60 in using the wedge issue of slavery to unite the North for a permanent factional takeover of the national government showed how prescient the old Patriots had been, in their misgivings about so-called "federalism" done Hamilton and Madison's way.

Ein Volk ein Reich! hasn't been America's style, ever. It's the burden of statists and corporofascists like you, to explain why it's good for us, even when we're just policy objects anymore, and seldom listened to.

276 posted on 03/09/2006 1:37:29 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Still no reply about mulattos, nor any reply about the revolution that created the federal union. To hear the yankees, all every southern white boy wanted was to have sex with their slaves - certainly the predominance of such would be ample evidence of the lust and rapine that ALLEGEDLY occurred. Just as the yankees claim that "revolution" means military force, and not revolutionary as in 'a novel concept, or new method'. I wonder why they refuse to address such.


278 posted on 03/09/2006 2:19:28 PM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

It is a complete falsehood to claim the anti-Federalists were the "old patriots" when it is simple to determine that the backbone of the Federalist party was precisely the same officers of Washington's army who made up the Society of the Cincinnati. Almost all the major leaders of the party were either in the Continental Army or the state militias.

That cannot be truthfully said of the democrat faction which grew out of the anti-Federalists.

There was no such thing as an "old patriot" which does not include those who fought their entire adult life to create and stengthen their country. Petty grafters are almost never "old patriots" and those were the main opposition to Washington and Hamilton and the true patriots.


310 posted on 03/11/2006 5:48:35 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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