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To: Heyworth
Good evening.

The movie Ride With The Devil, about the border wars around Missouri and Illinois has some lines that explain the whole sorry mess very well.

Michael Frazier
183 posted on 03/07/2006 6:15:32 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville; Heyworth
The movie Ride With The Devil, about the border wars around Missouri and Illinois has some lines that explain the whole sorry mess very well.

Watch it, Heyworth. Can quotes from "Gone With The Wind" or "Gods and Generals" be far behind?

186 posted on 03/07/2006 6:42:06 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: brazzaville
The movie Ride With The Devil, about the border wars around Missouri and Illinois has some lines that explain the whole sorry mess very well.

Never saw the movie, although I read the novel that it was based on, as well as an early draft of the screenplay before it was shot. I've even seen "The Outlaw Josie Wales" and "Dark Command" several times each. I understand that some of Quantrill's men believed they had grievances. The point is Watie's oft-repeated assertion that EVERY SINGLE VICTIM at Lawrence, from the 16 year-old shop clerks to the old German preacher dragged from his sickbed, had it coming--that there wasn't a single innocent victim. Oh, and that their specific crimes can be found in a book entitled "The Annals of Old Missouri", which, apparently exists no place but in Watie's imagination.

189 posted on 03/08/2006 12:00:06 AM PST by Heyworth
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