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Marc Emery (Prince of Pot) on 60 Minutes
Yahoo Canada ^ | March 2, 2006 | Camille Bains

Posted on 03/03/2006 5:46:33 AM PST by headsonpikes

Pot crusader Marc Emery says his appearance on the news program 60 Minutes on Sunday will be an opportunity for Americans to see him as just an ordinary guy who regards himself as the Luke Skywalker against their government's Darth Vader tactics.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; drugskilledbelushi; giveitupdruggies; leroypushespot; potheads; wod; wodlist
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To: Mojave
Here comes the demand for an entitlement.

Adult humans are entitled by natural law to engage in any activity that does not violate the rights of others nor create a clear and present danger of such violation. Maybe you'd prefer Singapore to the Land of the Free.

141 posted on 03/04/2006 6:31:01 PM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Mojave
You want Ritalin outlawed?

I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. You claim your crusade against marijuana is "for the children", but you couldn't care less about the children destroyed by Ritalin.

Ritalin use has caused the deaths of children due to heart attack during strenuous play

Ritalin lowers the "convulsive threshold." This means that children with no previous history of epileptic seizures can become epileptic with seizures, convulsions or fits. All such seizures can cause permanent brain damage

Ritalin is highly addictive. Those who use Ritalin in childhood will crave meth when they suffer stress as adults.

How can you not crusade against Ritalin?
Your crusade is obviously based on dogma and not on your concern "for the children".

In other words...SIN WAR
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142 posted on 03/04/2006 6:52:23 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99

Horsefly, don't bother me, Horsefly, don't bother me...

You know who that is, don't you?

LOL!


143 posted on 03/04/2006 6:55:15 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Mojave
If there were any great amount of real problems with cannabis use - I think it would be showing up in a notable way.(winston2)

"The latest treatment data indicate that, in 2000, marijuana was the primary drug of abuse in about 15 percent (236,638) of all admissions to treatment facilities in the United States. Marijuana admissions were primarily male (76 percent), White (57 percent), and young (46 percent under 20 years old). Those in treatment for primary marijuana use had begun use at an early age; 56 percent had used it by age 14 and 92 percent had used it by 18..."

My partners already nailed this phenomenon in general but I'd like to comment on it in particular. I have known scores of marijuana users very personally and have never seen a case where an individual needed or thought they needed clinical care. Just speaking for myself - if I ever get busted - I promise you that clinical treatment will be my first choice in judicial remedies. I think that you have seen enough of my completely candid remarks to know that I am for real and that I am now telling the truth. I am living proof that given the choice of jail or clinical treatment the sane person will always choose the non-jail route. When I say cheers it don't mean the typical alcohol one - Cheers!

144 posted on 03/04/2006 7:06:38 PM PST by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: Know your rights
Adult humans are entitled by natural law

Just out of curiosity, what's your "natural law" definition of "adult"?

145 posted on 03/04/2006 7:19:50 PM PST by Mojave
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To: mugs99
I'm just pointing out

No, you were just making an entitlement demand.

146 posted on 03/04/2006 7:21:18 PM PST by Mojave
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To: winston2
My partners already nailed this phenomenon in general

I'm not sure whether that's obfuscation or delusion...

Could you rephrase?

147 posted on 03/04/2006 7:26:09 PM PST by Mojave
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To: winston2

The truth and Mojave have nothing in common.


148 posted on 03/04/2006 7:28:30 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: headsonpikes
Yeah. Like. Luke Skywaker.


149 posted on 03/04/2006 7:33:47 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Mojave
I'm not sure whether that's obfuscation or delusion...

Could you rephrase?

No - they nailed it.

Cheers!

150 posted on 03/04/2006 7:48:39 PM PST by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: Mojave
No, you were just making an entitlement demand

LOL!
Thanks for proving my point. You want to claim the moral high ground but don't even have the honesty to defend your position.
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151 posted on 03/04/2006 8:00:11 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: winston2

They bent their nail over and failed to drive it home?


152 posted on 03/04/2006 8:05:36 PM PST by Mojave
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To: Mojave
If anyone has a need to research the cannabis topic before viewing 60 Minutes / Marc Emery interview, I suggest viewing the film - Grass.

Synopsis GRASS is a documentary about the history of marijuana using archival footage and examining the moral, legal and medical aspects of its use. Narrated by Woody Harrelson.

I highly recommend it. Cheers!

153 posted on 03/04/2006 8:13:32 PM PST by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:)
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To: winston2; Supernatural
Obfuscation is what it is.


William F. Buckley at Large

 

June 10, 2003, 3:00 p.m.
Reefer Madness
Our current Prohibition.

he experience of Ed Rosenthal of Oakland, California, accelerates the day when heavy dilemmas in our legal system might just force a fresh look at our marijuana laws. Presumably that will have to happen when state legislators, congressmen, and presidents are in recess, because the great enemy of sensible reform has been, of course, politicians high from righteousness.

  

What happened to Rosenthal was that he was convicted of marijuana cultivation and conspiracy, facing a conceivable sentence of l00 years in prison and a fine of $4.5 million. The defense attorney had been forbidden by presiding Federal District Judge Charles Breyer to advise the jury of the perspectives of the defense. The city of Oakland, instructed by a statewide proposition in 1996, had enacted an ordinance authorizing the growth of marijuana for medical use. The judge took the flat position that local laws do not override federal laws; therefore the verdict could not be influenced by the legal contradiction, and therefore the jurors shouldn't be sidetracked by hearing about it. The reasoning was identical to that of Judge George King in the case of computer guru and poet Peter McWilliams. Judge King did not permit McWilliams to base his defense on the California initiative. McWilliams died from AIDS, while awaiting sentencing, unrelieved by the marijuana that critically lessened his nausea.

Sentencing day for Rosenthal was at hand on June 5, and there was some commotion when the thought was expressed that the guilty finding could mean life in prison. One juror had told the press that if she had known such might be the consequence of a guilty finding, she, and presumably other jurors, would not have voted as they did. The day came, and Judge Breyer, perhaps with a wink of the eye, sentenced Rosenthal to one day in jail and a $1,000 fine.

Now Ed Rosenthal is not to be confused with a stray felon who took a toke at an outdoor movie with his date. Oh no. Rosenthal is a full-time practitioner of resistance to marijuana legislation. He has written several books, totaling in sales over 1 million. In one of his most recent, The Closet Cultivator, he outlined how to build an indoor-marijuana-growing system impossible to detect through any method other than betrayal. When arrested, he was linked to a nearby warehouse full of the drug, ostensibly consigned for medical use. Rosenthal had been teasing the law along about as provocatively as one can do. He had a monthly radio show, and a little while before his arrest his guest was San Francisco's district attorney, Terence Hallinan, who praised efforts by medical-marijuana cooperatives and permitted himself the obiter dictum on existing laws that "the government anti-drug policy is a big lie that's supported by a thousand other lies."

Eric Schlosser of The Atlantic Monthly has published a deeply informative and readable book called Reefer Madness. He wonderfully illustrates the complexity, contradiction, and futility of extant drug laws. Although Governor Clinton of Arkansas introduced legislation to lessen state penalties for marijuana, he went on, as president, to treat marijuana as if it were as innocent as adultery. He doubled the arrests for marijuana infractions. When Nixon declared his tough-drug policies, athwart the recommendation of his own commission which had advocated licensing marijuana for individual home consumption, arrests climbed to over 100,000 per year. In 2001, 720,000 Americans were arrested for pot. About 20,000 inmates in the federal system have been incarcerated primarily for a marijuana offense. Those in state systems would equal that figure, and exceed it.

The problem is more than the laws' contradictions. The Uniform Sentencing Act has given prosecutors, not judges, almost plenary powers over defendants, power ruthlessly used to extract information and to encourage duplicity and to make property rights insecure. Judicial process is convoluted to the point where a judge can reasonably exercise a choice between 100 years in prison and one day in prison.

The marijuana laws can most directly be compared to the Prohibition-era laws, which didn't work, undermined the law, and were capriciously enforced. Pot consumption varies, but not in correlation with the laws' throw-weight. If you buy an ounce in New York State, that could bring you a fine of $l00; in Louisiana, a jail sentence of 20 years. Ed Rosenthal is quoted by author Schlosser. Will the laws in America dissipate, as they have done in Europe? He doesn't think so. "They've made the laws so brittle, one day they're going to break." The whole edifice of prohibition would come down, he predicted, "like the fall of the Berlin Wall." Schlosser nicely summarized Rosenthal's prediction. "A group of powerful, white, middle-aged men will meet in a room to discuss what to do about marijuana. And they will reach the only logical conclusion: tax it."

Like booze, some will then go on to abuse it, though with consequences less dire.

 


154 posted on 03/04/2006 8:15:04 PM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and world domination)
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To: Lady Jag

Hey, I've been wanting to use that big word in conjuction with Mojave's posts all along (Obfusaction), but I wasn't sure how to spell it.

I sure know what it means though.

I met Ed Rosenthal and Jack Herer and Elvie Musika at a pot rally in Altoona, PA, about 1986. Even got to have lunch with them with a few of my friends. We had a very interesting hour and a half together.

Nice post, but it will be over Mojave's head (of course).


155 posted on 03/04/2006 8:21:57 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Supernatural
Nice post, but it will be over Mojave's head (of course).

Mojave either likes to argue or is working with only a brain stem. He's funny, though, so I think he's just brainless.

156 posted on 03/04/2006 8:27:18 PM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and world domination)
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To: Lady Jag

He's on something that alters his mind, but no one has figured out what it is yet. LOL


157 posted on 03/04/2006 8:29:31 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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To: Mojave; winston2; Supernatural
Whenever I sit down and look, there's more info . . .


"At DEA, our mission is to fight drug trafficking in order to make drug abuse the most expensive, unpleasant, risky, and disreputable form of recreation a person could have. If drug users aren't worried about their health, or the health and welfare of those who depend on them, they should at least worry about the likelihood of getting caught. Not only do tough drug enforcement policies work, but I might add that having no government policy, as many are suggesting today, is in fact a policy, one that will reap a whirlwind of crime and social decay."
Donnie Marshall - Administrator of the DEA



158 posted on 03/04/2006 8:31:37 PM PST by Lady Jag ( All I want is a kind word, a warm bed, and world domination)
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To: Lady Jag
A judge advocate defending dope?

What a dope.

159 posted on 03/04/2006 8:32:23 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Lady Jag
Typical government bureaucrat jackbooted thug. A hero to Mojave and his ilk.
160 posted on 03/04/2006 8:33:42 PM PST by Supernatural (Lay me doon in the caul caul groon, whaur afore monie mair huv gaun)
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