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FOX Poll: Most Oppose Port Deal; Republicans Lose Ground
Fox News Website ^ | 3/02/2006 | Dana Blanton

Posted on 03/02/2006 3:01:32 PM PST by Dave S

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To: Regicide
In total Bush is a failure.

At least you finally own up to your real motivation.

If your definition of failure is tax cuts, returning decency to the White House, putting conservatives on the bench, promoting a culture of life, improving readiness and morale within the military, and preventing us from starting/getting us out of antiquated or bad treaties, then we're in full agreement. Otherwise you're just another whiny turd in the punchbowl.

503 posted on 03/03/2006 7:29:36 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: MikeA; Dave S

Exactly! What Dave is saying makes no sense. Take my state of TN for instance. Is anyone who was inclined to vote for whomever the Republicans run for senate going to nevertheless vote for Harold Ford Jr just because he's mad at Bush? I just don't see how this means more votes for Junior.


504 posted on 03/03/2006 7:31:57 AM PST by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: jec41
"Just making apoint. We need Dubai far more than they need us."

With all due respect, a fallacious point used for justification to compromise on this Dubai port deal.

505 posted on 03/03/2006 7:36:35 AM PST by F16Fighter (Does everything we've "learned about Islam from 9/11" change with the UAE Port deal?)
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To: HitmanLV
How's LV by the way? I've visited there a half dozen times, not really crazy about the gambling or shows, or the glitz... But the women, that's a different story... And Red Rock, Valley of Fire, they're both stunningly beautiful...

I assume you like it better than NYC?

507 posted on 03/03/2006 8:23:25 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: Regicide
Wow. What witty repartais. What a great marshalling of logic and rhetoric. Positively Churchillian there Coop.

...whines the fella who bestowed upon us such profound "Bush is a total failure" wisdom, only to have it picked apart piece by piece by "Junior."

508 posted on 03/03/2006 8:24:36 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Warren_Piece

"I just don't see how this means more votes for Junior."


And come November this ports flap will be a distant memory, just like the Harriet Myers thing that got under the skin of the far right is now all but forgotten. 8 months is a lifetime in politics. And should there be another Supreme Court vacancy between now and then, that will serve to focus the minds of conservatives even more on voting for conservative candidates. But the stridency of the Dems. which hasn't even hit full stride yet will be the best get out the vote tool the GOP has for its core voters. Most conservatives are fed up with this extremist partisanship out of the Dems. and are just itching to make them pay for it at the polls.


509 posted on 03/03/2006 8:41:52 AM PST by MikeA (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, the mainstream media: The As*es of Evil)
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To: F16Fighter
With all due respect, a fallacious point used for justification to compromise on this Dubai port deal.

With similar respect, may I ask what specific evidence you have that this company, this group of managers, is in any way connected to any terrorist activites?

If you have any evidence about this specific case, I promise to take it seriously.

510 posted on 03/03/2006 8:47:43 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: MikeA

I saw the sampling of this FOX poll.. It surveyed 10% more Democrats than Republicans (43% Dem. 33%Rep.), and was sampled in a "Blue" area. FOX has me puzzled here as to why they would also skew a poll like CBS did and was imbalanced in almost identical numbers.


512 posted on 03/03/2006 8:56:26 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Pat Buchanan............A principled pessimist with a pessimistic principal)
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To: Regicide
There is a semantic difference here.

No there's not, Pops. But of course that won't prevent you from continuing your "definition of 'is' is" argument.

Go ahead and mock my knowledge of grammar, punctuation, etc. Ah reckon it still don't remove that arse-kickin' yah got a few posts back.

513 posted on 03/03/2006 8:56:33 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Part of it is just the sloppy nature of media polls. I worked in polling for a long time. Media polls tend to be commissioned quickly based on events, and the client wants the results ASAP to get them on the news. So there is no time to balance for party I.D. and weighting the data can be expensive and cost time. So they just run with whatever their fishing net brings in and realize the public, journalists and many pundits are too stupid to question it.

I'm sure there is a certain amount of bias that enters into it as well. The media is clearly out to bring down Bush. If rigged polls make him look horrifically unpopular, then maybe it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy through a sort of peer effect.


515 posted on 03/03/2006 9:06:36 AM PST by MikeA (Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, the mainstream media: The As*es of Evil)
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To: Regicide
Remember one important dynamic/fact about our current state of the Union....

In this day of 15 second sound bites, whirlwind political rhetoric, politics of personal destruction without constructive solutions and misinformed less-than-truthful MSM propaganda, the American Public has become skeptical of most everything they hear.

The public now views most polling data as nothing more than political manipulation by the MSM and take it as they would take worthless rhetoric.

516 posted on 03/03/2006 9:11:53 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Pat Buchanan............A principled pessimist with a pessimistic principal)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Hopefully soon, they will also realize that the media is stringing them along like a kite. All of them!

The media is now 99% BS and is making the story, not reporting it. All of the media with the exception of a few analysts.

517 posted on 03/03/2006 9:14:57 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Regicide
You keep going and going, clapping those little symbols, and making a bit of racket to get attention--but ultimately saying nothing and going nowhere.

And yet still able to get you to agree to every one of my points, thereby highlighting the absurdity of your rhetoric. Not too bad for a cute bunny that don't unnerstand Engrish.

518 posted on 03/03/2006 9:15:24 AM PST by Coop (FR= a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Warren_Piece
What Dave is saying makes no sense. Take my state of TN for instance. Is anyone who was inclined to vote for whomever the Republicans run for senate going to nevertheless vote for Harold Ford Jr just because he's mad at Bush? I just don't see how this means more votes for Junior.

Perhaps but how many Republicans unhappy over the borders, the ports, the deficit and any number of issues are going to sit home on election day if its rainning or vote some stupid protest with the Libertarians or other third party.

520 posted on 03/03/2006 9:55:22 AM PST by Dave S
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