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FOX Poll: Most Oppose Port Deal; Republicans Lose Ground
Fox News Website ^ | 3/02/2006 | Dana Blanton

Posted on 03/02/2006 3:01:32 PM PST by Dave S

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To: Petronski

http://www.internationalpsa.com/home/default.html


381 posted on 03/02/2006 7:55:03 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: jec41

You're in denial. Look them up. You don't want to know the truth. You have too much energy invested in this to turn back now. Saving face is more important to y'all than facing the facts.


382 posted on 03/02/2006 7:56:10 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: pbrown
No, YOU "follow the money" and tell me exactly, step by step, what each of the companies and people you've named, have done, in the past 15 years of terrorism around the world.

You've cobbled together so much damned tinfoil, that this should take a while, but I'll wait...........................

383 posted on 03/02/2006 7:57:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Dominic Harr

It's not a company. It's a "govt" of elite shieks.


384 posted on 03/02/2006 7:57:49 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: RHINO369
Having differences in political opinion does not necessarily reflect ones mental capacity. You have your right to your opinion but I'm quite sure you would not be too happy if someone questioned your mental capacity with each post.

Leave the insults to the DU'ers, we can and should rise above that level. IMHO
385 posted on 03/02/2006 7:58:44 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (Memogate - Dan Rathers Little Big Horn.)
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To: takenoprisoner
It's not a company. It's a "govt" of elite shieks.

Technically, it's a company. At least as much as the ChiCom businesses who run similar operations in the Port of LA and the like.

But even so -- do you have any evidence to connect one of the "elite shieks" who run this company to terrorist activities?

386 posted on 03/02/2006 7:59:47 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: pbrown
Saving face is more important to y'all than facing the facts.

"Facts"???

I've been publicly asking for one single 'fact' that would hold up in a court of law.

To no avail, I might point out.

One fact connecting one person running this company to illegal or terrorist activity. Just one.

I'm honestly curious, questioning.

387 posted on 03/02/2006 8:02:15 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: MikeA; Dave S
...by a wide margin voters now think it would be better for the country if Democrats win control of Congress in this year’s midterm election....

If I have anything to say about it, that won't happen. I'm a hard worker, and frankly I'm irritated at the lameass Republican incumbents playing politics with the port. The facts are Dubai is an ally, the people bitching are bitching over thoughts and images--not hard facts, and the election is eight months away...a LIFETIME in politics.

Bush hasn't ever stuck his finger in the air to find which way he should move, and he shouldn't start now.

BTW, MikeA, thanks for revealing the internals on that poll--43% Democrat, eh? Bush certainly could appeal to his "base" more to bring those numbers up, but I think when the voters HONESTLY stand in the booth they aren't going to punch a chad for a 'rat; they're wusses on national security--BIG TIME.

Bush's modus operandi, from what I've seen, is to let the LameStream Media and 'rats (and sometimes panicked, pitiful Republicans) run and run and run and run until they're out of steam, then he steps in and clears the air...and he rebounds.

So let's let 'em scream and moan--the they'll eventually tire out, and the truth will finally get some air.

388 posted on 03/02/2006 8:03:04 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
They are no more entitled to operate or oversee American ports than they are to own Boeing, and we are no more obliged to agree to hand over control of our vital national assets than we were compelled to allow CNOOC to buy out Unocal.

I suspect your tax money will have to pay them to break the lease.

Who do you suggest run these ports, once you've thrown DPW over the side?

389 posted on 03/02/2006 8:04:46 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: OBone
I guess this only proves that a majority of the American people (as well as congresspeople and senators) don't have the faintest idea of what the hell they are talking about.

Yep ignorant as a rotten stump. Credit there socialist public school education. I learned how ports worked in the sixth grade in 1952. One of my businesses was importing containers. They don't have the slightest clue.

390 posted on 03/02/2006 8:05:14 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: takenoprisoner
Probably for same reason Zim Shipping broke it's WTC lease one week before 911 and move out.

A tinfoiler. An honest-to-goodness kook.

Thanks for revealing yourself.

391 posted on 03/02/2006 8:06:18 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Dave S; All
POLITICAL IDENTIFICATION FROM THE POLL: When you think about politics, do you think of yourself as a Democrat or a Republican?

Feb 28 - Mar 1

1. Democrat 43%

2. Republican 33%

3. (Independent) 18%

4. (Other) 3%

5. (Refused/Don’t know) 3%

ENTIRE POLL RESULTS PDF FILE:
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/poll_030206.pdf

392 posted on 03/02/2006 8:08:32 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat ((I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!))
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To: Dominic Harr; takenoprisoner; pbrown; nopardons; Flux Capacitor; Petronski; Stellar Dendrite
It depends on what precisely you mean by a "connection."

Dubai-although densely-populated-is not exactly a teeming, unmanageable metropolis, a la Karachi.

When the ISI makes an excuse for why they can't locate a top-ranking Al Qaeda figure in a city like Islamabad or Karachi it at least has some plausible deniability.

On the other hand, I don't see how a undemocratic monarchy-the size of a postage stamp-with an extensive internal security apparatus can not be held responsible for the transshipment of illicit narcotics, nuclear contraband, sub-Saharan slaves, and Eastern European prostitutes, in addition to wire transfers from Islamic terrorists.

When Pakistani officials say they don't know where Dawood Ibrahim is it might very well be a lie, but it is a somewhat believable lie.

On the other hand, how do you explain Dawood Ibrahim's ability to operate his terrorist criminal syndicate-with relative impunity-out of Dubai for so many years?

393 posted on 03/02/2006 8:09:32 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: takenoprisoner
Probably for same reason Zim Shipping broke it's WTC lease one week before 911 and move out.

I've been waiting for some one to bring that up.

Israeli Company Mum About WTC Pullout

WTC investigators should follow the money trail. It could provide critical information about the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

Exclusive to American Free Press,
By Christopher Bollyn

WHILE an Israeli real estate magnate from Australia insured his 99-year lease on the retail space of the World Trade Center against terrorism, one of Israel's biggest companies pulled out of the north tower just days before Sept. 11.

AFP has learned from a reliable source in the shipping industry that Zim American Israeli Shipping Co., Inc. broke the lease when it vacated the rented offices on the 16th and 17th floors of the north tower of the World Trade Center shortly before the Sept. 11 disaster.

According to the source, Zim's WTC office space had been leased until the end of the year and the company lost $50,000 when it suddenly pulled out in the beginning of September.

The rest here http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/09/AmericanFreePress0902.html

394 posted on 03/02/2006 8:11:41 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: sinkspur
Link posted upthread.
395 posted on 03/02/2006 8:12:10 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Another issue with the polls other than the ones you mentioned is, who are they polling? Telemarketers and pollster's do not have access to cell phone numbers, and how many people do you know that don't have cell phones? Beyond skewing the polls and wording the questions based on Liberal think tank conclusions, they also need to provide statistical data and a map showing which states were polled.

I bet time of day also comes into play. I also bet the data shows a disproportionate level of blue stater's. One last thing, how do they know the person they contact is really of the party affiliation they claim to be?
396 posted on 03/02/2006 8:13:15 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (Memogate - Dan Rathers Little Big Horn.)
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To: nopardons

I'm not your secretary. I already gave you the names. I did my own leg work, you do yours. That is if you want to know the truth.


397 posted on 03/02/2006 8:13:38 PM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: Flux Capacitor
Are you aware that you are equating the the U.S. government with terrorist-funders who would be no "allies" of ours at all if they weren't strategically located.

What terrorist did they fund. I am aware that they helped us fund and fight the first Gulf war as allies. I am also aware that they sent millions to help with Hurricane Katrina. These the terrorist you talking about or do you have proof of some other transaction.

398 posted on 03/02/2006 8:13:49 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
On the other hand, how do you explain Dawood Ibrahim's ability to operate his terrorist criminal syndicate-with relative impunity-out of Dubai for so many years?

They have criminals . . . interesting.

Do you know of any evidence connecting this criminal terrorist syndicate with any level of control of this company?

Oh, and by, "Connection", I mean any credible evidence showing these people did this thing that endangered this port, or some such.

399 posted on 03/02/2006 8:14:38 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

They didn't bid. If their managers didn't think it would work, who the hell are you to say otherwise?


400 posted on 03/02/2006 8:16:19 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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