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1 posted on 03/02/2006 11:29:10 AM PST by soccer_maniac
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To: soccer_maniac

So how much did the Clintons get for dropping that provision?


2 posted on 03/02/2006 11:29:59 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Clinton Legacy ping... the flow of slime never ends, does it?


4 posted on 03/02/2006 11:34:04 AM PST by thoughtomator (I understand Democrats' impatience; If Kerry were President, Iran would have nuked Israel by now)
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And I'm sure this story will be the lead in tonight's CBS Evening News.


6 posted on 03/02/2006 11:36:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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SENATE INVESTIGATION!! OMG (freaking out)


7 posted on 03/02/2006 11:36:14 AM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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I'm going to run to the TV and eagerly await CNN running it as breaking news..(sarc/off)


8 posted on 03/02/2006 11:37:58 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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The Interior Department disclosed Wednesday that a provision was mysteriously deleted from hundreds of federal drilling leases in the late 1990s that would have required producers to pay royalties, once prices reached a certain level, on oil or gas taken from deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

There was a huge amount of rearranging of the *law* while Clinton was in office. I've seen it myself in the US Code.

The question is when will the pubs grow a pair and DO something about it?

10 posted on 03/02/2006 11:39:05 AM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a ~legal entity~, nor am I a *person* as created by law!)
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Bush's fault!!! ....Oh he wasn't in office then.....Never mind.


11 posted on 03/02/2006 11:39:20 AM PST by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: soccer_maniac

Whew! I'm glad this happended under Clinton, or Freepers wouldn't care.


12 posted on 03/02/2006 11:39:26 AM PST by Wolfie
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AP does not have to be excerpted:

How it happened or who's responsible is a mystery eight years after the fact. But what may have been a simple error — or perhaps something more ominous — has given a multimillion-dollar windfall to a group of oil and gas companies and could cost the government billions of dollars more in the years to come.

The Interior Department disclosed Wednesday that a provision was mysteriously deleted from hundreds of federal drilling leases in the late 1990s that would have required producers to pay royalties, once prices reached a certain level, on oil or gas taken from deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico.

In 1995, Congress exempted deep-water oil from royalty payments to spur development. But a price threshold was included in leases issued in 1996 and 1997 and again in leases sold in each year since 2000 that reinstates the royalties if market prices reach a certain level.

For some reason the language "was inadvertently dropped" from an addendum attached to more than 1,100 leases the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service issued for 1998 and 1999, Walter Cruickshank, the agency's deputy director, told a House Government Reform subcommittee Wednesday.

He said officials have not been able to determine who made the change, although he said it had to have been a human act, not a computer glitch.

"It is clear that there is no record telling people to take the language out," he said, and it was widely known that the department wanted the price threshold restriction in any oil and gas leases as a matter of policy.

In the late 1990s, when oil prices were well below the threshold, the issue may not have attracted attention.

Rep. Darrell Issa (news, bio, voting record), R-Calif., the subcommittee chairman, called the whole matter "suspicious."

"This is a $7 billion word processing error," Issa told reporters. He said some of the leases issued during those two years could remain in effect for as long as 85 years, so the government will be unable to collect royalty payments from oil and gas taken from those leases for decades to come.

While providing no specific number, Cruickshank said the government already has lost "several hundred million" dollars in royalty payments from the 1998-99 leases because they lacked the threshold language. If prices remain high, lost royalties "will be in the billions of dollars," he acknowledged.

The price threshold where royalties must be paid changes yearly. Most recently it was set at about $34 a barrel for oil and $4.34 per thousand cubic feet for natural gas, according to Interior officials. The price of oil Wednesday on the New York Mercantile Exchange was nearly $62 a barrel and the government estimates it will remain in the $50-a-barrel range for years to come. Natural gas prices have been in the $9-per-thousand-cubic-feet range.

Issa said he planned to seek more documents from the Minerals Management Service, and said the issue may need to be investigated by the Justice Department to determine whether there was any deliberate wrongdoing.

When Congress enacted the royalty relief program for deep-water exploration and development, it was embraced by the Clinton administration as a way to spur more energy production in areas where the technology and prospects of success were still somewhat uncertain.

Cruickshank said he had no explanation for why the threshold requirement was taken out of the lease language when an addendum was changed for the 1998-99 leases to reflect other regulatory changes.

"Everyone knew the (price) threshold applied" but people didn't focus on it because of low market prices at the time, said Cruickshank, who joined the agency in 1988 but was not involved in writing leases.

The mystery surrounding the 1998-99 leases is part of a broader question over whether any royalty relief should be given to the industry, given high oil and gas prices and huge industry profits.

The Interior Department estimates that as much as $66 billion worth of oil and natural gas that will be taken from the Gulf of Mexico between now and 2011 falls under the royalty relief law enacted by Congress in 1995. Much of that oil and gas will be subject to royalties under the price threshold provision, which is included in leases other than those issued in 1998-99.

Several oil and gas companies have challenged the legality of the threshold requirement in leases issued before 2001. Kerr McGee, a major natural gas producer, has given notice to the Interior Department that it will soon file a lawsuit arguing that the threshold provisions are illegal.

The Interior Department will "vigorously defend" the ability to impose royalties under a price threshold provision, said Cruickshank. "There's a lot of money at stake."


13 posted on 03/02/2006 11:40:55 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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I guess Clinton found a way to reimburse the oil companies for paying the U.N./Saddamn bribes


18 posted on 03/02/2006 11:44:04 AM PST by marty60
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Actually I think just about anything that keeps money out of government hands is a good thing, including this.


20 posted on 03/02/2006 11:45:45 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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It's obviously Bush's fault. Somehow Dick Cheney and Karl Rove got Bush to force Slick Willie to allow those nasty oil companies to steal billions from the poor. Don't forget, Willie did not have sex with those oil companies!


25 posted on 03/02/2006 11:49:00 AM PST by ozzymandus
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bttt


29 posted on 03/02/2006 11:52:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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Oil drillers must have to make up-front payments for drilling rights. The absence of the royalty threshold would have made the leasing contracts more valuable, thus increasing the up-front price that drillers would be willing to pay. As long as there was competition for drilling rights, the gov't should have gotten paid up-front for the market value of the contingent payment it was relinquishing, compared to previous years' contracts.
35 posted on 03/02/2006 11:55:59 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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The Deepwater Royalty Relief Act of 1995, which cut royalties owed to the government for oil and gas drilled on federal lands from depths of 200 meters or more, was signed into law by President Bill Clinton as a way to encourage investment in ultra-deep exploration.
38 posted on 03/02/2006 12:00:26 PM PST by kcvl
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Hm....

I thought Bush was the friend of big oil - but eight years ago the Clintons were in charge....


40 posted on 03/02/2006 12:03:56 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President!)
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Oh too bad for you. Seems your idols were caught with their hand in the cookie jar and Freepers are not falling for your attempt to change the topic. Guess you will just have to sit there and take your lumps poor Wolfie.


41 posted on 03/02/2006 12:04:05 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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I would think this would be easy to find out where the "problem" first occurred.

1. Review all leases back to a certain date and find out which ones exclude the clause.
2. Look at the first page on each of the contracts to determine the "Commencement Date" of the lease. The first one to 10 contracts that excluded the clause are going to be where your error occurred
3. Fire someones ass and if it is pr oven illegal then send them to jail.

On another note, even if they had been collecting this money it would not have meant a damn thing to you and me, the government would have spent it on something that yielded little or no benefit to us. Some how I don't see the government saying "wow, I just found (or saved) an extra $10 billion dollars...lets give it back to the people!"
48 posted on 03/02/2006 12:12:57 PM PST by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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this is just more taxes that cause rises in the price of gasoline.


52 posted on 03/02/2006 12:34:58 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than over here.)
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Good gad.


58 posted on 03/02/2006 12:58:09 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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