What I really don't like about the envoy is that I think front visibility is low for an SUV.
Good point. Drives like a wet mud brick as well. Not much to like about it at all. I don't have any use for GM or Ford at this point. Cars start out as depreciating assets, the worst kind. If I can't rely on it to last well after it's depreciated 50%, I just don't want to buy it.