Posted on 03/02/2006 3:38:43 AM PST by Glacier Honey
Well said.
Raising objections to what is taught, or how, or by whom, typically brings a "circle the wagons" response by the education establishment and accusations of bigotry, censorship, etc. against those raising them.
I would caution those who urge firing this teacher to "set an example" that the numbers just aren't very balanced; if it comes to a showdown, there are many, many more left-leaning teachers in public schools than clones of G. W. Bush. And the school boards are controlled in many places by --guess who? -- the teachers' unions. Right-wing teachers, where they exist, don't dare make waves or they pay a dire price.
Home schooling and private schools are the way to fix the problem.
Educational vouchers, on the other hand, only prolong the agony.
Separate school and state and get politics out of education.
Not trying to be insulting or condescending toward you by ANY means. However I would disagree with your premise I am generalizing based on one case. Stories abound of teachers giving their "talking points" & indoctrinating our future generations with useless tripe both political & otherwise. Books "normalizing" homosexuality are being introduced, as well as the important lesson of "condomizing a cucumber or banana," group discussions of "fisting" and a cornucopia of useless garbage being levied on a captive audience. Non-compliance equals discipline. Schools arrange out of state abortions without parental notification etc. the list goes on & on. Some teachers have found it quite acceptable to sleep with their students EVEN at the elementary level. Schools are turning out knuckle-heads with little or no education, to start their youthful adult life absolutely unprepared. If test scores are low (as in California) just lower the passing grade. Our public school system is a liberals dream, and a national disgrace.
......but forgot to mention it is always capitalist welfare that has to prop up collectivist nations.
Preducators?
Oh pleeeeeease...there is not enough room in this forum to cover the failures of the PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM....
I can simply begin with the FACT that most kids do not have the "family discussions" you site.. Therefore, their trust in the instructor is the basis for misinformation.
Ahh! I see someone was first with that one.
Good for the student.
Another reason to 'home school'.
A teacher/professor would be hard presssed to prove that they didn't want their lessons heard or recorded by their students.
It's not a conversation when a teacher stands at the front of a classroom and goes off on a diatribe about the evils of Bush. It's a lesson in hate speech.
A liberal teacher who presents intellectually honest arguments and fairly presents alternative viewpoints is fine.
But a liberal who tosses out blatant lies and hyperbole designed to shape negative, hateful attitudes toward this country and its president is no different than a Wahabist who teaches exactly the same thing to young Muslim children in madrassahs.
Twenty years ago, the parents in this school would have demanded this guy be terminated INSTANTLY. Forty years ago, he would have been lynched.
Thanks for the link!
He said he took the definition of Capitalism "right out of the dictionary". He must have the Merriam-Marxist dictionary.
"Democracies are violent"
"the US is the most violent country in the world"
"Illegally invading another country"
Some of the younge skulls full of mush in the class are just following him. Fortuanately, none of them are going as nuts as this jack-ass.
A lot probably depends on what part of the country you live in. Fortunately I live in Texas but I still am on guard for this sort of thing and my children are very politically aware.
It's funny how teachers opinions change over time. When I was in high school back in the sixties, I had teachers who would talk about the threat of creeping socialism...but only briefly...not as a rant. I did go to a Catholic school, but I'll bet there were plenty of teachers in the public schools who had the same sentiments as my teachers. What happened?
And what if the teacher had been a Bush fan and ranted about Dems? All of you would be cheering.
My kids have had crazy libs and conservative repubs. as teachers. You seem to have the notion that teacher=liberal. Guess what? I come from teaching family and my experience is quite different. We are ALL republicans and most of my parents teaching friends were also.
I listened to about ten minutes of this propaganda spiel. Finally, I was flooded with unpleasant memories of my own public school experience.
Hey, kids - boycott public schools - they are the engines of totalitarianism.
If you learn nothing else from 20th Century history, learn that.
"It's not a conversation when a teacher stands at the front of a classroom and goes off on a diatribe about the evils of Bush. "
You missed my point. I was only addressing the legal aspect of recording.
Or did I miss your point? Are you saying that it's completely legal to record these classroom lectures?
When my son needed the lecture recorded which would have helped him study with his auditory processing disability, they said no.
It was against the district policy.
The way the teacher acted, I really thought it was in the union contract.
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