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Family Fights To Take Toddler Home
Kake News Wichita Kansas ^ | Feb. 28, 2006 | Kake news Reporter Chris Frank

Posted on 03/01/2006 7:03:01 PM PST by KSApplePie_two

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To: KSApplePie_two; 4lifeandliberty; AbsoluteGrace; afraidfortherepublic; Alamo-Girl; ...

Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping!

Please FReepmail me if you would like to be added to, or removed from, the Pro-Life/Pro-Baby ping list...

21 posted on 03/01/2006 8:42:42 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: KSApplePie_two

I will be praying for them. What a thing to have to face.


22 posted on 03/01/2006 9:06:28 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: Hildy

My FIL has a ventilator at home, that he uses when he sleeps. He has another type of oxygen tank that he uses periodically when he's awake. The one he uses when he's sleeping actually forces his lungs to function. When he uses the other tank, he has to be breathing on his own.


23 posted on 03/01/2006 9:28:09 PM PST by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: BykrBayb

There's something missing from this story then. It doesn't make sense. Unless it's an insurance issue. Which would be horrible. I just can't see how the hospital can be the final decision maker in something like this. Hey...we got through an interaction without fighting, yay!!!!


24 posted on 03/01/2006 9:31:35 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: Hildy

I wonder how long we can keep it up.

I also wonder if the hospital believes (rightly or wrongly) that he's literally dead, and his family believes (rightly or wrongly) that he's alive. I don't see how his organs could function if he's dead. Maybe the hospital has a different definition of death than the rest of us have. Maybe they believe that if certain area(s) of the brain aren't functioning, even though other area(s) are functioning, the patient is dead. If, in their opinion, he's dead, they would consider it abusive to keep his body functioning.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 9:36:10 PM PST by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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And they hospital probably want to harvest his organs too, since apparently they're in good shape. This kid drowned in the bathtub? There's alot of guilt going on in this family too, I would imagine. Just a very sad story.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 9:38:19 PM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: KSApplePie_two; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ..


27 posted on 03/01/2006 9:41:33 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Hildy

The organs might be a motivating factor, but it's hard to say at this point. I'm guessing that the hospital has a eugenics view of life and death, and they firmly believe anyone as severely brain damaged as this is actually dead, or better off dead.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 9:43:39 PM PST by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: leda

i dont understand why a hospital wants to take
a patient off a ventilator but wont allow that
patient to go home to be cared for by family.

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You can bet they want his organs for transplant.


29 posted on 03/02/2006 2:27:27 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Marine_Uncle
"But we're sympathetic to their needs during this very difficult time."

"But we're going to do everything in our power to kill your kid anyway. Then we will continue to be sympathetic."

Some days I just want to slap the crap out of people...

L

30 posted on 03/02/2006 2:31:39 AM PST by Lurker (In God I trust. Everybody else shows me their hands.)
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Well, it's only been three weeks. The article states that the family has in home health care set up, and it is certainly possible to care for someone on a ventilator at home. He would just have to come home by ambulance.

I say give the baby some time befor removing the ventilator. Imo, three weeks is too soon.


31 posted on 03/02/2006 2:33:23 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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You can bet they want his organs for transplant.

This is something that I didn't think about. Well now I'm thinking about whose life is worth more? Yes, if organs are available, it is a blessing to give someone a chance at life. However, how do you choose whose life is worth more in a situation like this?

Brett's parents need real counseling at this point. The courts should keep their noses out of it. Brett should be given a chance to regain his ability to breathe on his own. His parents should realize that it possibly won't happen. This is where solid emotional support and counseling comes in. The courts should not be involved, and I don't know why they are, unless the hospital wants to harvest the child's organs, and the parents won't allow it.

32 posted on 03/02/2006 3:51:49 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

It is not permitted to take the organs without the family's consent. A desire to collect the organs cannot be a motive for the hospital - it's pretty obvious there's no way this familly is giving permission.

Mrs VS


33 posted on 03/02/2006 4:57:34 AM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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To: SUSSA
You can bet they want his organs for transplant.

oh what a horrid thought! i pray this is not the case.
34 posted on 03/02/2006 4:57:57 AM PST by leda (Dream a better dream and work to make it reality!)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

I've assumed that it is not permitted to take organs without the family's consent. That was then, and this is now. The courts are involved. Families no longer have rights under the current system.


35 posted on 03/02/2006 5:13:51 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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You can't take organs without the family's consent. This hasn't changed.


36 posted on 03/02/2006 8:45:31 AM PST by Chesterbelloc
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To: Lurker
" Some days I just want to slap the crap out of people..."
Life truely has it's moments. Let us hope the many prayers shall find a roger that from HE Who could can do.
37 posted on 03/02/2006 10:19:01 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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If the baby has a strong heart, did you think about harvesting. Baby hearts are hard to come by.


38 posted on 03/02/2006 10:19:01 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: BykrBayb

The only thing to do is to check out the hospital and see what kind of organ harvesting program or system they have set up - do they link to a larger network? I think the hospital's after the little boy's heart.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 10:21:15 AM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher for Fla Guv www.tg2006.com)
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To: Chesterbelloc

Have you read about corpses being violated in mortuaries? The thieves are after bones. Do a search here, articles have been posted. Patients have gotten deathly ill from these products.

Not only is this illegal, and of course disgusting, it is also very lucrative. Now can you imagine the amount of money that relatively perfect organs can fetch?

Now, my concern is why the hospital took the parents to court to force disconnection of the ventilator, AND the feeding tubes, IV's. If the parents have a plan in place, why should the hospital care whether the patient is moved from their facility???? This is why some have mentioned organ harvesting. Can you come up with another reason why a medical facility would go to court to force a 2 yr old to die?


40 posted on 03/02/2006 10:44:50 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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