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What a buddy you have, Mr Bush!
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2006/mar/01raman.htm?q=tp&file=.htm ^

Posted on 03/01/2006 1:47:06 AM PST by Arjun

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To: Gengis Khan

Aw, c'mon.

The US isn't dumb and I suspect it full well knows the games Mushyboy has been upto.

This marriage of convenience won't last forever and the Pakis are acutely aware of whats on.

Pak and saudi are our worst 'allies' at the moment but before they turn into irans, I'd rather we handle one thron at a time. Pak's time will come, so help them God.


21 posted on 03/01/2006 5:38:11 AM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: Arjun

If Bush only said nice things about white Christian leaders, these same idiots would say he is a racist who is uncooperative with Middle Eastern and Asian officials.


22 posted on 03/01/2006 5:42:51 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: voletti

I agree with you. This is a long term 'chess game.'


23 posted on 03/01/2006 5:43:19 AM PST by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: voletti; verity; Arjun

"The US isn't dumb and I suspect it full well knows the games Mushyboy has been upto."

If US knows and yet she choose to arm Pakistan with weaponry, then it can only mean that the US is playing a double game. Call me a conspiricy theorist but US would have a hard time explaining Indians why Pakistan is being rewarded when they haven't even started acting against the terrorists.

"Pak and saudi are our worst 'allies' at the moment but before they turn into irans"

Pakistan and Saudi are already worse than Iran just that they are still US lackeys.


24 posted on 03/01/2006 6:35:27 AM PST by Gengis Khan
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To: voletti
The US isn't dumb and I suspect it full well knows the games Mushyboy has been upto.

Dumb? The dumbest thing the US COULD do with Pakistan is what it HAS done.

"You're either with us, or with the terrorists." This means what, exactly?

25 posted on 03/01/2006 7:28:06 AM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: Gengis Khan

Life is a big chess game.


26 posted on 03/01/2006 8:14:40 AM PST by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: ARridgerunner

Mushy visited China a week back and came back with a deal to 'buy' 2 chinese nuke power plants. Ostensibly, this is a ploy to pressure Bush into a civilian nuke deal with Pak as well.

The US could easily squeeze Pak so hard economically alone, Pak will collapse within a week.

Right now, we deal with Iran first. India has suffered Pak sponsored jihad for years now. In another 10 yrs it'll be so far ahead of Pak in every conceivable sphere that Pak will have as much nuisance value as Bangladesh does today (minus the immigration timebomb though).


Its easy to pigeonhole behaviour and call folks stupid. State isn't perfect but it isnt blind either. Their considerations extend to beyond south asia and into central asia and the mid east. We dont want a Pak becoming another north korea right now, IMHO.


27 posted on 03/01/2006 8:50:16 AM PST by voletti (Awareness and Equanimity.)
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To: Arjun

Yeah Mr. President, we demand you fight this war with NO allies and NO weapons. If you don't hate the guys we hate, then you're just not doing your job. You have to go into this thing with only US at your side, but don't depend too much on us because we haven't been able to do jack sh*t about this problem.


28 posted on 03/01/2006 8:55:19 AM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: voletti
Maybe. I've heard all the reasons over and over but still think our policy toward Pakistan is insane.

Did Bush mean what he said, or not?

29 posted on 03/01/2006 10:16:54 AM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: McGavin999

You are missing the point. This isnt about not finding new allies. Its about finding the wrong ones.


30 posted on 03/01/2006 1:52:49 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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"Your buddy helped bin Laden, Zawahiri and their jihadi hordes to escape from Tora Bora in Afghanistan into Pakistan and is not taking any action to kill or capture Laden."

This must come as a great shock to the Al Qaeda terrorists who have mounted six assasination attempts against Musharaff...

31 posted on 03/01/2006 1:55:01 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Arjun

BS.

AQ has tried to kill Musharaff at least 3 times, probably more.....


32 posted on 03/01/2006 1:57:15 PM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: Southack

ah ha!!

I see you and I agree :)


33 posted on 03/01/2006 1:57:33 PM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: Arjun

Alright, what is the alternative to getting the terrorists in the western provinces of Pakistan? Got any ideas?


34 posted on 03/01/2006 2:17:45 PM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: MikefromOhio

You are too naive. AQ is not 1 cohesive organisation and Mush has been financing jehadi outfits in Pak for decades.
Also remember such attacks can also be orchestrated by Mush himself to convince people in the western world of his "credibility" ie to fool people exactly like you.. You have no freakin idea how murky the water is.


35 posted on 03/01/2006 4:33:54 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: McGavin999

If we had finished that job when afghanistan was liberated and had cleaned up all of the neighbourhood instead of 1 part of it, we would definitely be better off. If Pak doesnt want to do it, somebody else has to.


36 posted on 03/01/2006 4:36:14 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: Arjun

Stick to making noodles.


37 posted on 03/01/2006 4:37:48 PM PST by T Minus Four (I'm sorry you have to die.)
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To: Arjun
You have no freakin idea how murky the water is.

I've got a MUCH better idea about it than you do. And as for your AQ is not 1 cohesive organization, you're FULL of it.
38 posted on 03/01/2006 4:46:10 PM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952+ replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: Arjun

Ah, so your solution is to declare war on Pakistan by invading their soverign territory.


39 posted on 03/01/2006 5:11:26 PM PST by McGavin999 (I suggest the UAE form a Joint Venture Partnership with Halliburton & Wal-Mart)
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To: McGavin999

Lets faceit.. they cant clean it up. You want to sit and watch? There are parts of that country where people are openly organizing and hatching plots and the authorities wont stop them then who will?


40 posted on 03/01/2006 6:28:03 PM PST by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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