[sonofjoe]

I have less a problem with the DPW ports deal than I do with the overall proliferation of Islam. Muslims, of all nations, have only proven their sheer and utter intolerance for the religions of others. It cannot be any more clear in the Koran that they have no intention with "living in harmony" with people that do not except their "religious" views, which are really more socio-political views.

Either way, Islam has a very identifiable track record of misery, death, and destruction in one form or another. The problems are being created by allowing it to spread to civilized societies that are tolerant, thereby setting themselves up for either something tantamount to a civil war, or domination and oppression. There really aren't too many ways around that.

Some Freepers and posters will jump all over that, but IMO they are people that seem to not think that this country can change drastically as if civilizations, governments, and societies haven't changed themselves, for better or worse on a continual cycle, for as long as the earth and human kind has been around.

We're setting ourselves up for problems there. Islam has no intention of "living in harmony" with anyone but other muslims. Even that has to be questioned.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but it seems that you contradict yourself in this post. On one hand you advocate the total abstinence from Islam, "shutting our borders to it" if you will, while on the other you blame some for not seeing that change is a necessary evil, and has been for thousands of years. How can America remain one of the 'civilized societies that are tolerant' (which i think is a good thing) while at the same time shut out 1.2 billion of the worlds population?

[sonofjoe]

PS: 'Shutting our borders' to a substantial and rich culture does not necessarily promote change. In fact, withdrawing into our country (and building a HUGE wall) really does not convey the best 'team-playing' attitude to the world.

[Fruitbat]

How can America remain one of the 'civilized societies that are tolerant' (which i think is a good thing) while at the same time shut out 1.2 billion of the worlds population?

And therein lies your problem! You also most clearly have no practical understanding of Islam. Absolutely none!

Allow me to rephrase your question/statement above, and see if this helps. After that I am bowing out of this thread. This is high school level nonsense.

Here goes:

How can [Europe and America] remain one of the 'civilized societies that are tolerant' (which i think is a good thing) while at the same time shut out [X%] of the worlds population?

What if Muslims were Nazis? Because Islam is nothing short of Nazism. To deny that is to ignore the reality and "fruits" of the spread of Islam.

Again, I'm outta here!