Posted on 02/28/2006 7:02:23 PM PST by RWR8189
As far as trashing Reagan to make Bush look better, I agree that should never be done, but comparing the facts about the spending records of both presidents is quite fair. To be fair, Reagan never had to deal with a major attack on our soil and deploy the Military in two major wars. He did have the major task of bringing down the Iron Curtain and in this area I find these two presidents very similar. Both of them firmly believe that Liberty is a God given right and those who deny their people that God given right should be confronted and defeated.
The whole spending complaint should be placed in the laps of the U.S Congress. Their inability to refrain from Pork Barrel spending is reprehensible, especially in this time of war with radical Islam. It's kinda hard to expect this President to Veto the Defense Spending Bill because of the Pork in the Bill. So I hold the Republicans in Congress at fault in that deal.
My basic argument is that Bush has enacted policies contrary to conservative principles on too many occasions.
The book details many other areas where I feel that Bush's policies are totally contrary to Ronald Reagan's.
I wrote my book so that Republicans and conservatives can start a debate about the future of the party and the movement.
Republican voters need to ask themselves whether they are satisfied with the direction George W. Bush has led them or whether they would really prefer to get back to the policies and philosophy of Ronald Reagan.
I don't see how any conservative or right leaning Republican can be satisfied with the Bush domestric agenda.
I also believe that long after I'm dead and gone, this President's spending and policies will have the same effect on my great grandkids and their children ...... a much safer world as another threat to our way of life is vanquished because of the policies of this President.
In a perfect world I would like to see our fiscal situation to much like me and my family live (WITHIN OUR MEANS) but with the way our officials are elected, I see little chance of that happening. they get elected because of what they promise to give, instead of how they mange the money coming in, and it's a damn shame it has to be this way, but it is reality
>>>GWB started out with a 2.0 Trillion Dollar budget, it's now 2.6 Trillion and that includes all the spending after 9/11, except for actual funding for Military Operations. This means GWB has increased spending by roughly 25%. Ronald Reagan increased spending by well over 200% while he was in office...
Bush came into office with a budget of $1.863 trillion in 2001, Clinton's last budget year. Bush`s latest budget is up at $2.777-trillion. That is an increase of 49% from 2001 to 2007. Noting the 2006 budget will come in higher then estimated, as will the 2007 budget.
Reagan came into office with a budget of $678-billion in 1981, Carter's last budget year. Reagan's 1987 budget came in at $1.004 trillion. That is a budget increase of 48%.
Reagan's 48% is a lot lower then the 200% you quoted. And even a tick lower then Bush`s 49%, based on estimated spending projections.
Lets not overlook the big accomplishments by Reagan. Some that get overlooked with the passing of time.
President Reagan won the Cold War, dismantled the Soviet Empire and the communist Eastern Bloc, freeing 500 million people from totalitarian rule, rebuilt the US military, revived the US economy from the worst conditions since the Great Depression, cut taxes 25% across the board, reduced the top tax rates from 70% to 28%, reduced welfare state and non-defense discreationary spending, and reduced federal regulations like no POTUS before or since. Reagan also proposed the Strategic Defense Initiative, aka.STAR WARS. That proposal alone may have been the siginificant factor in bringing down the USSR. Reagan also negotiated reductions in the strategic nuclear weaponry of the worlds two super powers.
If it wasn't for President Ronald Reagan there would be no conservative movement today, no Newt Gingrich and the Contract With America, and no 43rd President called GW Bush.
To be clear here, Ronald Reagan is, and will always be, my hero, his leadership changed the world and his optimism was cantageous. The debate over who spent more money is not the issue IMHO, it's leadership, and I think they both are leaders
Ah yes, good-old name calling, when one cannot dispute the facts.
Bush has had the luxury of a Republican-controlled Congress and still isn't able to cut spending.
LOL! You know you're including yourself too, right?
bttt
Swallowed up by massive government spending
Rejection of the Kyoto Protocol and it's underlying assumptions.
Kyoto isn't dead, the envirowackos are taking their time - Bush is too afraid to take on the envirowackos and promote a sound, objective energy policy
Support for the Second Amendment
D.C., Chicago, New York still have unconstitutional gun bans. The 20,000 or so laws are still on the books.
Rejection of the UN as an organization for Global Government.
U.N. still on U.S. soil. U.S. continues to pay the lion's share of membership dues.
You have to have a legitimate starting point. You can't just start with Bush`s first budget. You can't just remove a full year budget year from the equation. The comparision has to be from Clinton's last budget year to the current budget of 2007. This shows the actual increases as the annual budgets have moved forward. Same with Carter and Reagan. I was using comparitive yearly statistical data of 1981 to 1987 and 2001 to 2007. Everything being equal. We can compare Reagan's last budget of 1989, with Bush`s last budget of 2009, once the Bush Presidency has finally ended.
My data come from OMB.GOV, Historical Tables, Section 3, Table 3.1.
I agree with you. Its all about leadership. Reagan was a great leader. Bush is still a work in progress. Bush has done a fine job in the WOT. Although, I'm more concerned with killing the jihad terrorists and keeping active US military bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, then I am concerned with nation building and democratizing the ME. Bush can't do that in three years, or 300 years.
Odd. I thought it was because the Republicans, led by Newt Gingrich, offered the Contract With America. The Democrats offered nothing, and they still don't.
Once Republicans lose the votes of those who are only voting against the Democrats, not for them, they will be in serious political trouble.
I don't buy it. If these people were merely dissatisfied with the Democrats, they could have just refused to vote at all. But, by actively voting Republican only as a means of voting against Democrats, that says their vote is unaffected by Republican behavior. Therefore, there's no reason to believe that the Republicans will lose these people's votes.
Good observation. I've read the book and this man (unlike Bush) is a TRUE conservative. But some so-called conservatives seemed to have established a Bush cult of personality and are impervious to any facts that disturb the image of their hero -- most of whom probably havn't even read the book.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
That's the way our system works.
This president is reducing the deficit thanks to the tax cuts.
Frankly, I agree with the priorities set out by the President. He does what he hs to do to achieve those priorites.
The deficit is being reduced. Eventually, if the tax cuts are made permanent and further tax relief is enacted into law, we will be be in a good place financially.
For now, unemployment is LOW and the stock market is doing reasonably well. Housing is a good investment and I fail to see the reason for all the whining by conservatives.
The venue is harmful to the issue, IMO.
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