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Betraying the Reagan Legacy (Bruce Bartlett Alert)
Creator's Syndicate ^ | February 28, 2006 | Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 02/28/2006 7:02:23 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: William Creel
Good point, I believe our Government has to grow as our economy does. As areas of the country grow in Commerce, the highways and infrastructure has to keep up with that growth. The major objection I have had to this administrations spending was the Medicare Bill, it is totally unfunded and will only grow faster than our economic growth can handle it. Some of that spending I agree with, such as "preventative medicine". In other areas of spending he has not simply increased spending, he has made sure market driven incentives accompanied that spending and it will take a few years before the changes start to bare fruit.

As far as trashing Reagan to make Bush look better, I agree that should never be done, but comparing the facts about the spending records of both presidents is quite fair. To be fair, Reagan never had to deal with a major attack on our soil and deploy the Military in two major wars. He did have the major task of bringing down the Iron Curtain and in this area I find these two presidents very similar. Both of them firmly believe that Liberty is a God given right and those who deny their people that God given right should be confronted and defeated.

The whole spending complaint should be placed in the laps of the U.S Congress. Their inability to refrain from Pork Barrel spending is reprehensible, especially in this time of war with radical Islam. It's kinda hard to expect this President to Veto the Defense Spending Bill because of the Pork in the Bill. So I hold the Republicans in Congress at fault in that deal.

21 posted on 02/28/2006 8:32:56 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Key statments:

My basic argument is that Bush has enacted policies contrary to conservative principles on too many occasions.

The book details many other areas where I feel that Bush's policies are totally contrary to Ronald Reagan's.

I wrote my book so that Republicans and conservatives can start a debate about the future of the party and the movement.

Republican voters need to ask themselves whether they are satisfied with the direction George W. Bush has led them or whether they would really prefer to get back to the policies and philosophy of Ronald Reagan.

I don't see how any conservative or right leaning Republican can be satisfied with the Bush domestric agenda.

23 posted on 02/28/2006 9:04:11 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: William Creel
I used to be when I was drawn in by the idea that my kids and grandkids would pay for Reagan's spending of the 1980's. Well I'm here to you 25 years later that that argument is a weak one. What my kids and grandkids are doing is living a life in a much safer world because of Ronald Reagan's spending and policies.

I also believe that long after I'm dead and gone, this President's spending and policies will have the same effect on my great grandkids and their children ...... a much safer world as another threat to our way of life is vanquished because of the policies of this President.

In a perfect world I would like to see our fiscal situation to much like me and my family live (WITHIN OUR MEANS) but with the way our officials are elected, I see little chance of that happening. they get elected because of what they promise to give, instead of how they mange the money coming in, and it's a damn shame it has to be this way, but it is reality

24 posted on 02/28/2006 9:07:22 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: MJY1288
Looking through your posts there is one item that I must address.

>>>GWB started out with a 2.0 Trillion Dollar budget, it's now 2.6 Trillion and that includes all the spending after 9/11, except for actual funding for Military Operations. This means GWB has increased spending by roughly 25%. Ronald Reagan increased spending by well over 200% while he was in office...

Bush came into office with a budget of $1.863 trillion in 2001, Clinton's last budget year. Bush`s latest budget is up at $2.777-trillion. That is an increase of 49% from 2001 to 2007. Noting the 2006 budget will come in higher then estimated, as will the 2007 budget.

Reagan came into office with a budget of $678-billion in 1981, Carter's last budget year. Reagan's 1987 budget came in at $1.004 trillion. That is a budget increase of 48%.

Reagan's 48% is a lot lower then the 200% you quoted. And even a tick lower then Bush`s 49%, based on estimated spending projections.

Lets not overlook the big accomplishments by Reagan. Some that get overlooked with the passing of time.

President Reagan won the Cold War, dismantled the Soviet Empire and the communist Eastern Bloc, freeing 500 million people from totalitarian rule, rebuilt the US military, revived the US economy from the worst conditions since the Great Depression, cut taxes 25% across the board, reduced the top tax rates from 70% to 28%, reduced welfare state and non-defense discreationary spending, and reduced federal regulations like no POTUS before or since. Reagan also proposed the Strategic Defense Initiative, aka.STAR WARS. That proposal alone may have been the siginificant factor in bringing down the USSR. Reagan also negotiated reductions in the strategic nuclear weaponry of the worlds two super powers.

If it wasn't for President Ronald Reagan there would be no conservative movement today, no Newt Gingrich and the Contract With America, and no 43rd President called GW Bush.

25 posted on 02/28/2006 9:44:32 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
I was speaking of GWB's first proposed budget, not Clinton's, and if I have my figures wrong, I apologize. But wasn't Reagans's 1989 Budget that GHWB inherited much higher than 1.004 Trillion?, I dont have the numbers in front of me but I thought it was more like 1.4 Trillion.

To be clear here, Ronald Reagan is, and will always be, my hero, his leadership changed the world and his optimism was cantageous. The debate over who spent more money is not the issue IMHO, it's leadership, and I think they both are leaders

26 posted on 02/28/2006 9:56:00 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: Perdogg
More like a Bruce Barlett Barf alert. Any man that sucks up to Lou Dobbs has no credibility.

Ah yes, good-old name calling, when one cannot dispute the facts.

27 posted on 02/28/2006 9:59:43 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: OldFriend
Post #3 - Reagan also had to deal with a Democratic Congress.

Bush has had the luxury of a Republican-controlled Congress and still isn't able to cut spending.

28 posted on 02/28/2006 10:00:44 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: MNJohnnie
Republicans on Kneepads rejoice, you have a new caucus member

LOL! You know you're including yourself too, right?

29 posted on 02/28/2006 10:01:53 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: Perdogg

bttt


30 posted on 02/28/2006 10:04:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: StopGlobalWhining
Tax relief

Swallowed up by massive government spending

Rejection of the Kyoto Protocol and it's underlying assumptions.

Kyoto isn't dead, the envirowackos are taking their time - Bush is too afraid to take on the envirowackos and promote a sound, objective energy policy

Support for the Second Amendment

D.C., Chicago, New York still have unconstitutional gun bans. The 20,000 or so laws are still on the books.

Rejection of the UN as an organization for Global Government.

U.N. still on U.S. soil. U.S. continues to pay the lion's share of membership dues.

31 posted on 02/28/2006 10:09:28 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (We're Americans, we can do anything)
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To: MJY1288
>>>>I was speaking of GWB's first proposed budget, not Clinton's ....

You have to have a legitimate starting point. You can't just start with Bush`s first budget. You can't just remove a full year budget year from the equation. The comparision has to be from Clinton's last budget year to the current budget of 2007. This shows the actual increases as the annual budgets have moved forward. Same with Carter and Reagan. I was using comparitive yearly statistical data of 1981 to 1987 and 2001 to 2007. Everything being equal. We can compare Reagan's last budget of 1989, with Bush`s last budget of 2009, once the Bush Presidency has finally ended.

My data come from OMB.GOV, Historical Tables, Section 3, Table 3.1.

I agree with you. Its all about leadership. Reagan was a great leader. Bush is still a work in progress. Bush has done a fine job in the WOT. Although, I'm more concerned with killing the jihad terrorists and keeping active US military bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, then I am concerned with nation building and democratizing the ME. Bush can't do that in three years, or 300 years.

32 posted on 02/28/2006 10:24:20 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: RWR8189
It's worth remembering that Republicans took control of Congress in 1994 not because more Republicans voted, but because fewer Democrats did.

Odd. I thought it was because the Republicans, led by Newt Gingrich, offered the Contract With America. The Democrats offered nothing, and they still don't.

Once Republicans lose the votes of those who are only voting against the Democrats, not for them, they will be in serious political trouble.

I don't buy it. If these people were merely dissatisfied with the Democrats, they could have just refused to vote at all. But, by actively voting Republican only as a means of voting against Democrats, that says their vote is unaffected by Republican behavior. Therefore, there's no reason to believe that the Republicans will lose these people's votes.

33 posted on 02/28/2006 10:34:43 PM PST by Dave Olson
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To: truth_seeker

Good observation. I've read the book and this man (unlike Bush) is a TRUE conservative. But some so-called conservatives seemed to have established a Bush cult of personality and are impervious to any facts that disturb the image of their hero -- most of whom probably havn't even read the book.


34 posted on 02/28/2006 10:42:06 PM PST by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: StopGlobalWhining
"Here's my favorite things about George W. Bush:

1. Tax relief

2. Rejection of the Kyoto Protocol and it's underlying assumptions.

3. Support for the Second Amendment

4. Rejection of the UN as an organization for Global Government.

Although he is far from perfect, these are big things that mean a lot to me.

3. Bush promised to sign the assault weapons ban if it came to his desk, thank Congress for that not Bush

4. Rejected the UN by agreeing to get a 14th UN resolution about Iraq instead of enforcing the other 13, creating a precedent that not even Clinton used, that force needed to be cleared by the UN Sec Council.

The only thing Bush did right was the tax cuts and Supreme Court appointments, and even then he needed to be put in check by the right.

Bush is a moderate, that doesn't make him a terrible president. He has done pretty much what he said he'd do, but he isn't a great leader, and he isn't a conservative. He'll go down in History as a mediocre no name. Nothing big, nothing bad said about him.
35 posted on 02/28/2006 11:04:09 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: RWR8189
I agree with Dr. Bartlett... there isn't much to like about Bush's policies on spending. In that respect he's more like Nixon than Reagan. He's done everything the Left wanted and they hate him because they don't get the credit. That's not Reaganism in my book. And I think we need a debate in our party over the direction we want to take in the future.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

36 posted on 03/01/2006 12:11:51 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: StopGlobalWhining
I like those things too. But what I don't like is the relentless growth of the regulatory state under Bush and the huge increases in domestic spending. We'd hit the roof if a Democratic President did that but we're happy to acquiesce in it because this President happens to have an R beside his name. We have to ask ourselves honestly if being the Party Of Big Government is what it means to be a conservative today.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

37 posted on 03/01/2006 12:15:29 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
In order to achieve his priorities Reagan allowed spending to exceed income......this President also has to deal with those who put their priorities ahead of his, and he does what he has to do.

That's the way our system works.

This president is reducing the deficit thanks to the tax cuts.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 4:36:44 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: T.L.Sink
It's not about a cult of personality, it's about priorities.

Frankly, I agree with the priorities set out by the President. He does what he hs to do to achieve those priorites.

The deficit is being reduced. Eventually, if the tax cuts are made permanent and further tax relief is enacted into law, we will be be in a good place financially.

For now, unemployment is LOW and the stock market is doing reasonably well. Housing is a good investment and I fail to see the reason for all the whining by conservatives.

39 posted on 03/01/2006 4:39:47 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: Marxbites
Michael Weinersavage had Weldon on discussing Able Danger too.

The venue is harmful to the issue, IMO.

40 posted on 03/01/2006 4:45:46 AM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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