Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
I consider it akin to murder.
And yet I would not be honest with you, or myself if I said I approved of the ALL-POWERFUL STATE forcing a rape victim to give birth to a child she did not consent to creating.
I understand other's passion on this issue, and I respect them. I just wish people would step back for a moment and hear me out on this one...
(All sarcasm aside), I do admire your candor.
The issue isn't Bush's consistency as much as it is about the consistent view he has.
How often is the doctor present when either takes place. Medical trauma is what is in front of him and what he is competent to treat.
Apparently you do when the baby's father is a moral reprobate.
A child is supposed to be the end result of love between a man and woman - the married type.
So a child conceived out of wedlock or as a result of rape is less human than one conceived in marriage?
What you are saying makes absolutely no sense.
Please show me where. I say a child has a right to life regardless of who the father is. What about this argument makes no sense?
A woman gets raped, and she is commited to carrying the pregenancy through - ?
Being a raped does not confer a liscense for murder.
And BTW, the rapist is called a "RAPIST", not "the childs father".
So you think rapists can't be fathers? You need to sit down with your mom and have a talk about the birds and the bees.
IMHO - Yes, abortion is fully acceptable in cases of health concerns for the mother and......
RAPE.
Can you provide a logical basis for this humble opinion?
You want to condem the mother TO ACCEPT what an asshole did to her ?
She was raped. It's the reality, and having an abortion doesn't change it.
You have a big bustle in your hedgerow, get it straightened out - ASAP.
No you're the one with the problem. You obviously form your opinions based on emotion and not logic.
ANd since you are kind of going down a Christian road here, the Bible says that to those who see evil occuring (and know it's evil) and do nothing, that too is evil. To let evil run roughshod over the innocent and sit idly by is sin.
here comes Mississippi
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1587554/posts
ban all abortions except for life of mother provision.
A rapist cannot be a "father" in any way but biology. I think both sides of this argument can agree on that.
Last time I checked, even the most extreme libertarians considered protecting innocents from murder to be a legitimate exercise of state power.
Don't forget about "statutory rape".
I hear you. I just don't agree with you. If abortion were illegal in cases of rape the state is not forcing the woman to carry the child. Biology is what causes the pregnancy to exist. Regardless of the law it is the woman's conscience that determines whether she will carry the baby or kill it. You are turning cause and effect on its head when you lay blame on the state for a law that simply protects life.
It is unfortunate to say that evil cannot be eradicated by human hands alone, for we are intrinsically sinful creatures. Even though we have the capacity for good, we also have the capacity for evil.
Evil will only be eradicated by the Second Coming.
And I had a typo in my big post; I'm a guy, not a girl. X3
>>>Would you still support the "no exception stance" if it was your wife who was raped?
>>Support it? I'd demand it with all the husbandly authority I had to wield.
Just out of curiosity...how would you deal with the crackfiend/psycho/lowlife rapist who manages to win visitation rights in court?
Obviously. I fail to see what this has to do with the matter at hand, though, since I was using the word "father" in the strict biological sense.
No one should be denied any rights simply because her biological father is a rapist.
No. I'm dead serious. Do you have any substantive arguments, or are you just going to argue from incredulity?
What about statutory rape? Why should some 25 year old creep get the right to call him a father after raping a 14 year old?
"Easy for you to say and to judge. I imagine not so easy a decision for a rape victim."
You're NOT PAYING ATTENTION!
Your imagery is powerful. Ominous men in black, forcing rape victims to give birth under threat of prison. I can see them now, standing with the hand cuffs, saying "You WILL have that child!"
Scary. It exists only in the imagination, but imagination can be powerful.
I can also see something else. I see babies. I can see their sensitive skin burned by salt. Skin so sensitive it is like one big open wound. And I can see them drowning in saline.
I can see other babies shrinking, trying to escape a sharp blade. Screaming. Silently.
You can see it too. It's happened millions of times. They even have it on video. You don't even need an imagination. Just a conscience.
him=himself- it's getting late...
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