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Bush disagrees with South Dakota abortion ban
AFP ^ | 1 March 2006

Posted on 02/28/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

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To: Peach

Who claimed the President changed his position? Look, I'm with you on rape and incest exception, but I will call fouls on both sides of this debate as I see them.


241 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:02 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: joesbucks

The morning after pill IS NOT an abortion pill, it works by preventing the release of an egg. So unless your defintion of abortion is preventing the egg and sperm from meeting the morning after pill IS NOT ABORTION.


242 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:14 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Aussie Dasher

This has been President Bush's stance from the git-go. Why is everyone falling out with the red a$$ now like it's a big surprise? Never mind.


243 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:29 PM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: MikefromOhio

I hadn't heard that saying but it sure is a good one.


244 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:30 PM PST by Peach
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To: ARCADIA
The South Dakota law is designed to be challenged in the courts so as to allow a show down in the Supreme Court. A similar, but more stident law is being sponsored in Ohio, for just the same reasons.

This is the pro life movements nuclear option.

245 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:31 PM PST by joesbucks
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To: Peach
"And conservatives will lose ALL support on this issue if they push it without those exceptions."

This is a gift to the democrats that will keep on giving. The trials should begin just in time for 2006.
246 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:36 PM PST by ndt
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To: Torie

Yeah. I think South Dakota erred in their politics but I give them an A+ for consistency of thought.


247 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:44 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jveritas

you nailed it there.


248 posted on 02/28/2006 7:24:47 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: silentknight

Is it pro-abortion to ban 99.99999% of abortions?


249 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:00 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Peach; Hildy; Torie
Definitely reasonable. It's only on this board that I hear people think they aren't reasonable exceptions. In real life, I've never met a person who thought the way these barbarians are thinking. Even in the Baptist churches down here, these are exceptions which are acceptable.

I've yet to meet someone in real life that thought like some of these keyboard clowns do here. I'm a guy, course you knew that already, and I believe Bush's position is consistent with his stated position going into the 2000 elections, and that rape and incest are reasonable exceptions.

As Torie pointed out, the Republican party is not a monolithic party.

FR has shown, even in this thread, not even Conservatives are monolithic. Rush even demonstrated that today on his show, reacting to a Buckley piece in NRO regarding the Iraq War. (which Buckley said we're losing).

Even the writers at NRO don't see eye-to-eye on the same issues day in and day out.

250 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:11 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: clawrence3

There are freepers on this thread who have indicated the president is drinking, has abandoned his base on this issue, etc. Those are the people who are pretending the president has changed his position in this.


251 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:34 PM PST by Peach
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To: Hildy
I'm sorry, I know how alot of you feel, but to make a woman carry a baby conceived from rape is so incredibly wrong.

Agree, but this "abortion in the case of rape" thing is nothing more than a red herring.

How many of the approximately 1.5 million abortions annually in the States are a result of a "rape situation?"

I bet it's in the hundreds or even less making it statistically insignificant. Yet, it's often what drives the issue.

252 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:47 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Hildy
By the way, I wouldn't go posting picture on the internet of a child in the context we're discussing now...seems a but unseemly, don't you think? Do you care about anyone's feelings or life except that of unborn children? Unbelievable.

It's tough seeing the people you would like people to have the right to kill, isn't it?

253 posted on 02/28/2006 7:25:50 PM PST by SwordofTruth (God is good all the time.)
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To: Peach

yeah....

you know, instead of acting from a position of logical and reason, which some have on this thread, others are taking the typical knee-jerk approach which is really becoming more of an attribute of the RIGHT instead of the LEFT wing.....


254 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:10 PM PST by MikefromOhio (22,952replies - wow I'm talkative.....)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Yep you could be wrong


255 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:10 PM PST by woofie
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To: clawrence3

Pro-Abortion is saying it is okay to kill a child because the dad raped somebody.

Yep that is pro-abortion. Killing is killing is killing is killing. SPIN it any way you like. Most do.


256 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:14 PM PST by silentknight
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To: RHINO369

The morning after pill will abort a fertilized egg too.


257 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:26 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: clawrence3
no one said it's a wonderful thing.

Just reading between the lines. Don't you think if some rape victim was dragged into certain church services, attended by some posters here, and proclaimed her desire to carry some genetically defective fetus to term, there wouldn't be Hallelujahs and Hosannas? Of course there would.

258 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:28 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Hildy

It's "Legislating by exception" at its finest as I say.


259 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:38 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: curiosity

Better than the absurd legal contradiction of the man who gets arrested if he accidentally hits a pregnant woman on her way to an abortion and kills the baby.


260 posted on 02/28/2006 7:26:48 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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