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To: b_sharp; P-Marlowe; xzins; betty boop
Thank you for your reply, but, er, I think there may be a misunderstanding of the object of my post at 1389. I was not addressing tests or the observer problem per se.

I was addressing P-Marlowe's hypothetical world at 1359 where there are two "jars" of specimens, one looking like Helen Hunt and another looking like Helen Thomas. The question posed by P-Marlowe:

Now 40 generations later do you think the Helen Hunt jar men are going to have any desire whatsover to engage in mating rituals with the Helen Thomas jar women?

Now, are they a different "species" because they don't want to mate?

I found the above to be delightfully funny and also a great thought experiment for the intelligent design hypothesis which says:

certain features of life and the universe are best explained by intelligent cause rather than an undirected process such as natural selection.

When the males of the two "jars" do not want to mate with the Helen Thomas jar females - or conversely want to mate with the Helen Hunt jar females - they are making a willful choice, i.e. using their intelligence.

IOW, that subsequent generations look increasingly more like Helen Hunt is not an accidental result of an undirected process but rather the Helen Hunt likeness would be the result of an "intelligent cause".

1,464 posted on 03/03/2006 1:20:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
My apologies. I was working on a customer's machine and freeping in-between diagnoses. I guess I should have followed the chain a few links farther back.
1,471 posted on 03/03/2006 4:20:24 PM PST by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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