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To: wardaddy
You don't seem to know the meaning of total war.

Sherman was forced to march through Georgia/South Carolina and destroy everything of military value to the South. There were no murders, no deliberate killings of civilians, most houses were not burned. Nothing he did was against the laws of war in place at the time.

Hood and the Confederate army would not surrender or fight. Sherman spent most of Oct 1864 chasing Hood around Georgia. He brought the war home to the civilians to force them to make peace. Once Sherman marched through, all the "die in the last ditch" types changed their tune and began speaking for peace, if only to prevent Sherman from coming back.

I have no sympathy for the South. They could have recognized reality in 1864 and made a compromise peace that would have gotten them everything except slavery and a separate nation. As Lincoln said, the south could have peace on any terms they wanted as long as "Union" was on first word on the list.

Instead, they prolonged the war, yapped about "fighting to the last man" and kept on fighting for their "honor". Davis wanted to keep on fighting as late as April 1865.

Davis was in fact of typical Southerner, talking about how he would "die in the last ditch, etc.". Of course, at the end of the war he hightailed it to Mexico and was caught wearing a women's dress.
129 posted on 03/01/2006 9:10:50 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: rcocean; All
PITY that you "know NOT & know NOT, that you know NOT".

there were HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of rapes,robberies,lootings,arsons, tortures, assaults & COLD-BLOODED murders committed against UNarmed civilians in the southland.

if you were Asian,Black,Female,Indian,Jewish,Latino, Roman Catholic, a recent immigrant and/or POOR, you were an especial target of the "filth that flowed down from the north". (FEW of the "planter aristocracy" were victimized.)

fwiw, at least 92 of my family were raped/robbed/tortured/murdered by the yankee cavalry, ONLY because they were UNarmed, poor & NON-white.

free dixie,sw

130 posted on 03/01/2006 9:26:46 AM PST by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: rcocean
Of course, at the end of the war he hightailed it to Mexico and was caught wearing a women's dress.

Utterly false. Davis was captured near Irwinville, GA, and he was not wearing a dress. His wife Varina threw a shawl over his shoulders (Lincoln habitually wore a shawl as well, as did many of the period). The garment alleged to be a dress was an overcoat. Here's what Capt. James Capt. James H. Parker, a member of Union General Wilson's staff stated in the Argus of Portland, Maine. [The text was on display at the Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond as are Davis' garments when he was captured].

I was with the party that captured Jefferson Davis; saw the whole transaction from its beginning; I now say -- and hope you will publish it - - that Jefferson Davis did not have on at the time he was taken any such garment as is worn by women. He did have over his shoulders a water proof article of clothing -- something like a "Havelock." It was not in the least concealed. He wore a hat, and did not carry a pail of water on his head, nor carry pail, bucket or kettle in any way. To the best of my recollection, he carried nothing whatever in his hands. His wife did not tell any person that her husband might hurt some body if he got exasperated. She behaved like a lady, and he as a gentleman, though manifestly he was chagrined at being taken into custody. Our soldiers behaved like gentlemen, as they were, and our officers like honorable, brave men; and the foolish stories that went the newspaper rounds of the day, telling how wolfishly he deported himself, were all false. I know what I am writing about. I saw Jefferson Davis many times while he was staying in Portland several years ago; and I think I was the first one who recognized him at the time of his arrest.

When it was known that he was certainly taken, some newspaper correspondent -- I knew his name at the time -- fabricated the story about his disguise in an old woman's dress. I heard the whole matter talked over as a good joke; and the officers who knew better, never took the trouble to deny it. Perhaps they thought the Confederate President deserved all the contempt that could be put upon him. I think so, too; only I would never perpetrate a falsehood that by any means would become history. And, further, I would never slander a woman who has shown so much devotion as Mrs. Davis has to her husband, no matter how wicked he is or may have been.

I defy any person to find a single officer or soldier who was present at the capture of Jefferson Davis who will say, upon honor, that he was disguised in woman's clothes, or that his wife acted in any way unladylike or undignified on that occasion. I go for trying him for his crimes, and, if he is found guilty, punishing him. But I would not lie about him, when the truth will certainly make it bad enough.
[Also cited by Burke Davis, The Long Surrender, New York: Random House, 1985, p. 145].

The War Department instructed the union military to appropriate the clothing in question - obviously no such garment was found. It was simply the furtive imagination of Union soldiers and the media in a feeble attempt to discredit the President of the Confederate States of America. Thankfully, the Union officer noted above stepped forward to repudiate the ludicrous and inane claims.
133 posted on 03/01/2006 12:22:29 PM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: rcocean; stand watie; stainlessbanner
"Political correctness is the natural continuum from the party line. What we are seeing once again is a self-appointed group of vigilantes imposing their views on others. It is a heritage of communism, but they don't seem to see this."

Familiar?

139 posted on 03/01/2006 4:08:46 PM PST by wardaddy ("hillbilly car wash owner outta control")
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