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BIG GOVERNMENT REPUBLICANS
ACU ^ | 2-24-06 | MIke Pence

Posted on 02/27/2006 6:07:48 AM PST by KyleM

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To: Reily

**I really don't believe there is a workable majority of 'small government believers' out there among the constituents that rel,ably vote GOP.**

The government is run by lobbyists and conservatives have lobbyists who tend to be single issue folks. The Congress funds a program and then the natural lobbyists are those getting the money. They are funded to worry about their money expanding and work hard - day and and day out to protect their money.

Conservatives are worried about what? - not spending money but also we are not targeting cuts. If we were following a plan to reduce government, we would be more effective. We totally dropped the idea of getting the government out of the Education business and in our weakness let Bush do "No Child Left Behind" with our Congress.


41 posted on 02/27/2006 10:25:19 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Gipper08; Extremely Extreme Extremist; raybbr; DTogo; AZ_Cowboy; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite; ...

mike pence in 08!@


42 posted on 02/27/2006 10:29:03 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funda HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: Reagan Man

ping


43 posted on 02/27/2006 10:29:52 AM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funda HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: KyleM; Stellar Dendrite

Conservatives know that the only way to get their social agenda in place is to make sure they get elected by spending as much or more than their Liberal counterparts. "Smaller government" isn't on the menu anymore.


44 posted on 02/27/2006 10:35:46 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

What did the war have to with expanding the dept. of education from 42 billion in 2001 to 73 billion this year?


45 posted on 02/27/2006 10:39:33 AM PST by raybbr (ANWR is a barren, frozen wasteland - like the mind of a democrat!)
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To: Galveston Grl
You are presenting a case why I think term limits are vitally important.

If one had to leave in some limited number of terms the less likely he/she would succumb to the allure of lobbyists.

Education is a prime example where I don't believe that a majority constituency exists to drive it back to the state level. Unfortunately the corruption and incompetence that exists at local & state level educational establishments takes your breath away. ( I attribute this to NEA influence!)
46 posted on 02/27/2006 10:40:25 AM PST by Reily
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To: Stellar Dendrite
I like Mike Pence. He's a good cosnervative. Unlike many so-called conservatives around today, Pence actually sounds like a Reagan conservative. Pence speaks the truth.

Hope I'm wrong about this, but my gut tells me hard times are ahead for the conservative movement in America today. And I WILL blame it on the Jekyll and Hyde Presidency of Dubya Bush.

The GOP seems to be morphing back into the way it use to be before Ronald Reagan came along and ran for POTUS in 1976/1980. The Rockefeller wing of the GOP, aka. moderate-centrist-liberal wing of the GOP, has been gaining influence over the traditional mainstream conservative agenda that operated in the 1980`s under Reagan, through Gingrich in the 1990`s. Yeah, Bush is pro-defense, pro-life and an instinctive conservative tax cutter. But on domestic spending issues he's been a big disappointment. Big government Republicanism rules with Dubya Bush. And Bush`s opposition to real immigration reform, has been a utter failure.

Just as conservatives need to remain vigilant in the WOT, we also need to remain vigilant when it comes to advancing a conservative agenda for America. If we don't, we'll be stuck with more moderate-centrist-liberal Republicans, running the big government show, in status quo Washington DC.

47 posted on 02/27/2006 10:53:09 AM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Galveston Grl

"You would feel so much more secure and happy with Al Sharpton's party in power."

I sure as **** would not! But I am not happy with the republicans acting like dems. Until we get term limits and kick the lobbyists out of Washington it is going to be harder and harder to tell Republicans from Dems.


48 posted on 02/27/2006 11:12:57 AM PST by midwyf (Eliminate government involvement in the environmental religion too.)
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To: midwyf

There are other ways beyond term limits...lobbying is what it is called. It is being attacked by the mccaniacs.


49 posted on 02/27/2006 11:16:53 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: soccer_maniac

The Dems did not have Congressional power to spend the past six years so Republicans could not be outspending them. What you are saying is that Republicans increased spending from what they spent the past six years.

If Democrats did have power, they would have taken over gas prices with the hike in cost this past couple of years (see Hawaii) and they would have outspent Republicans.


50 posted on 02/27/2006 3:22:51 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Galveston Grl

Don't be so sure.

Discretionary spending rose 48.5 percent in Bush's first term, according to Cato Institute, twice as much as in two terms under President Bill Clinton, when spending rose 21.6 percent. Adjusted for inflation, Bush has increased total spending at an annualized rate of 5.6 percent, compared with 1.5 percent under Clinton.


51 posted on 02/27/2006 3:58:33 PM PST by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: soccer_maniac

The fact is that congress spends money. So our Republican Congress cut spending while Clinton was in power and they increased spending while Bush was in power.


52 posted on 02/27/2006 5:44:35 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Peach

Listen to him? They are more likely to boot him out.


53 posted on 02/27/2006 7:16:44 PM PST by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: Gipper08

pence ping!


54 posted on 02/27/2006 8:11:24 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Thank you!!!


55 posted on 02/28/2006 3:27:53 AM PST by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: RHINO369
Actually, you've simply restated the situation. It's the power politician who "...always lean towards the most votes,". It's the power politician in the GOP who "...leans left to try to pick off moderate democrats."

Sadly, that's why the GOP is starting to look like the democrat party.

56 posted on 03/02/2006 7:38:41 AM PST by ChiefBoatswain
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