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To: R W Reactionairy
Not a problem from your perspective in any event. Party hardy dude.

So again with no data?

But by what objective measure is 2 percent inflation better or "safer" than 2 percent deflation

If 70% of households own a home, 70% will be hurt by dropping home values. Borrowers real interest rate will be higher. Manufacturers, farmers, commodity producers will be hurt by falling prices for their goods. They will lay off workers.

hence changes in the CPI ex food and energy are a better indication of the general trend

Do you agree?

... and your point is?

CPI numbers are there for all to see. Whining about "Core is great if you don't eat or use energy" is juvenile.

roughly the same degree of comfort

Those airbags keep more people alive. That's got to be worth something.

You corn syrup example is an argument for diminished quality not the benefits of substitution.

That's funny. Yes, when filet gets too expensive and people substitute chicken, I think it's safe to say the chicken is lower quality. That's why it's cheaper.

and the benchmark product is readily available and sold in quantity.

If you mean cane sugar, yes, but not in processed food (as much).

Theft is funny isn't it. Party hardy.

Neither is deflation and depression.

One last question: What other parts of the Constitution do you believe should ignored when special interests deems it expedient?

I'm sorry, which part was ignored?

82 posted on 03/04/2006 7:59:48 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (A.Pole "I escaped Communism, but think we need more of it in America. Because Communism works")
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"So again with no data?"

For a general outline of the debt issue at a basic level try the following secondary source. http://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat.htm

"If 70% of households own a home, 70% will be hurt by dropping home values."

You seem to believe that I am advocating a systematic deflation. Take a couple of deep breathes and read what I have written.

In any event, in a stable / honest money environment, until homeowners sell, the only conceivable harm"harm" is that the refi cash extraction cycle based on asset appreciation is not available. When the homeowner ultimately sells the dollars they receive under a stable [honest] money approach would have the same purchasing power as the dollars they borrowed. The economic position is the same with any gain or loss reflective of a true change in economic value as opposed to being a function of the liquidity sloshing around.

Based on the exchanges we have had until now I believe that you fancy yourself a free markets sort. Why then do you believe that the Government and the Government's proxy should consistently dink around with the price, and quality / quantity of money.

There is nothing written in stone that the Government must continuously debase the currency to benefit debtors.

"Borrowers real interest rate will be higher."

Sounds like an admission that it is theft or if you prefer a milder term, another form of subsidy or transfer payment. Or maybe price controls in terms of manipulating the price of money [interest]. If you are looking for a welfare payment, be honest about it, if only with yourself.

"Manufacturers, farmers, commodity producers will be hurt by falling prices for their goods."

And benefited by lower costs.

"They will lay off workers."

Maybe, How about some facts [and if you are going to cite the 1930s please look at the rest of the series post World War I.

[In regard to the usefulness of the "core rate calculation] "Do you agree?"

Sure, I think you were quoting me. Additional analysis can be useful.

" CPI numbers are there for all to see. Whining about "Core is great if you don't eat or use energy" is juvenile.

If the purpose of the headline number is tell the average Joe what happened to his purchasing power last month, the full up number is more appropriate. Often times the five minute news blurbs on radio only report the core.

Over longer periods of time, core rate is indeed only a better measure of the general price level if you don't eat or use energy. What part of that statement is inaccurate or emotional? "

Those airbags keep more people alive. That's got to be worth something."

Quality improvements are worth something. I will restate what I wrote in an earlier post about quality hedonics. These adjustments have some merit, but could be used to report whatever adjusted number desired, if that is the intent. Absent motive, the adjustments are conceptually valid, but are still highly subjective.

"That's funny. Yes, when filet [sic] gets too expensive and people substitute chicken, I think it's safe to say the chicken is lower quality. That's why it's cheaper."

Yup and via the substitution process for lower value items, the new and improved CPI market basket gets a lower price going forward without reflecting what the index would have been with the fillet. That is how many substitutions work. The fact that a consumer can scrimp is not a drop in the general price level for consumers.

" Neither is deflation and depression."

I have never, and am not advocating "deflation and depression." OTOH, you are apparently advocating theft by deception.

"I'm sorry, which part [of the Constitution ed.] was ignored?"

Read what the constitution has to say about money. Read the tenth amendment. Then try to determine how the Fed and systematic monetary debasement fit into a Constitutional framework.

You seem to be fearful of deflation, but unconcerned about debt. Are you unaware that it is cascading debt defaults that drive significant deflations? Based on that, you should be concerned about the willingness of American and Americans to pile on more and more debt. As debt builds, it becomes increasingly difficult to strike a balance. One a tipping point is reached -- Weimar or Japan [or worse].

Party hardy dude.

83 posted on 03/04/2006 11:04:02 AM PST by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Monihan)
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