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Grave Matter: Detroit Paper Says Dead People Voted in Election
Editor & Publisher ^ | 2/26/06

Posted on 02/26/2006 12:35:36 PM PST by LdSentinal

DETROIT A newspaper's review of ballots cast in the November election shows many were cast under the names of people who have died, were serving time in prison or did not live in the city.

Detroit election records say Fred Douglas Henley voted at a polling precinct Nov. 8. Henley, however, died the day before the election, and his voting address long has been vacant and boarded up, The Detroit News reported Sunday.

Blanche Credit died in 2003. But she's recorded as voting in November, too.

It is unknown whether Henley and Credit were names someone used to cast fraudulent votes or whether they simply represent clerical errors. Mistakes commonly occur when election workers record a vote under a similar name or confuse voters with their relatives. But the problems have prompted Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land to call for faulty voter rolls to be purged in virtually every jurisdiction.

Detroit's newly elected clerk, Janice Winfrey, said she has ordered her staff to purge at least 50,000 names from the voter rolls by March.

"We've got a lot of cleaning up to do," Winfrey said.

Detroit's voter rolls include as many as 20,000 dead people and roughly 100,000 wrong addresses, The newspaper said. Wrong birthdates and garbled spellings on the city's active voter list make it difficult to determine in many instances who actually voted, and thousands of properties that are abandoned or vacant have remained on the voter rolls.

Across Michigan, 132 people were listed as having voted in November's local elections although they had recently died, said Mark Grebner, whose company, Practical Political Consulting in East Lansing, analyzes voter rolls. About 26 of those were in Detroit, Grebner said.

The News' review of ballots in Detroit's Nov. 8 election found a ballot recorded as being cast by a prisoner serving a life sentence for murder. Felons can vote in Michigan, but not while serving a sentence. In another case, city records indicate a ballot was cast by someone at least 146 years old.

Keeping names of the deceased and nonresidents on the rolls allows votes to accidentally be marked in those names, Grebner said.

"It allows for mismanaged elections and for the possibility of vote fraud because the records cannot be depended on," he said.

But Land's spokeswoman, Kelly Chesney, said purging voter rolls is complicated by restrictive federal rules designed to protect voters from disenfranchisement.

Winfrey's new director of elections, Daniel Baxter, says cleaning the voter rolls is his first priority.

"We think if we can resolve the low-hanging-fruit issues, then one step at a time we can bring back the integrity of the process," Baxter said.

Although there has been no proof of fraud, Detroit's election was surrounded by suspicions, particularly regarding absentee ballots.

A Wayne County judge ordered absentee ballots to be preserved, along with records of former City Clerk Jackie Currie's "ambassador" program, in which workers were sent to help elderly people vote. And a federal investigation is under way into allegations that some votes were cast in the names of dead people.

But Detroit isn't the only city with problems. Holland, population 30,000, recorded 11 votes cast in the names of deceased people in November's local election, Grebner said.

Holland City Clerk Jennifer French said she had no idea there was such a problem.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: corruptdems; deadvote; democrats; detroit; fraud; michigan; vote; voterfraud
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To: LdSentinal
A newspaper's review of ballots cast in the November election shows many were cast under the names of people who have died, were serving time in prison or did not live in the city.

LMAO, don't expect to see any other Democrat city newspapers doing similar "reviews".
Can you imagine what, say, the Philadelphia Inquirer would uncover? But, of course, that paper won't be doing any "reviews" anytime soon, that's for sure, and they would only spin, apologize for, "explain", and ultimately lie about the results even if they did. (No doubt they find a way to proclaim, "See? Both parties do it!".) Papers like the Philadelphia Inquirer will never do anything to hurt their party.

41 posted on 02/26/2006 2:58:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dfwgator
Hello,

Exactly, this is not news. I live in St. Louis, MO. This is news if you consider the following to be news: "The new automobile is putting buggy factories out of business". Here, in 2000, the man who successfully sued to keep the polls open past the mandated time was later identified as a dead guy. I am not kidding. ON top of that, MO actually voted in a dead guy. Not kidding again. We like our dead, and give them all the rights of the living.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
42 posted on 02/26/2006 3:56:06 PM PST by MOgirl (Hillary. She's a totalitarian freak. And you know what I'm talkin' about.)
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To: LdSentinal
In Georgia, the demonRats are fighting voter ID. They say it intimidates blacks. I say they are lying and what they really mean is it make vote fraud harder.
43 posted on 02/26/2006 4:28:39 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Join FR Team 36120 at http://folding.stanford.edu {Protein Folding Project})
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To: Phil Connors; Brilliant
Across Michigan, 132 people were listed as having voted in November's local elections although they had recently died, said Mark Grebner, whose company, Practical Political Consulting in East Lansing, analyzes voter rolls. About 26 of those were in Detroit, Grebner said. >>

132 out of 10 million? That actually ain't too bad.

When was the last time you picked a dirty penny up off the ground? In Michigan, returnable cans are 10 cents apiece. Would you stop your car on the road if you saw a returnable can lying on the shoulder?

Why would you bother voting 132 dead people? You wouldn't, unless the 132 was part of a larger number of phony votes. Like, a fifty dollar bill lying on the ground, or 5 or 6 plastic garbage bags filled with returnable empties lying on the shoulder.

The person who voted for him must have been someone who knew he was dead, or at least, someone who knew he would not vote.

Again, who would give a crap about the dead guy's missing vote? This example, especially, is a dog that's not barking.

Who is sitting around with a clipboard, checking the obits? Why waste the time, unless it's NOT a waste of time?

44 posted on 02/26/2006 7:01:27 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: LdSentinal
Detroit's newly elected clerk, Janice Winfrey, said she has ordered her staff to purge at least 50,000 names from the voter rolls by March.

Theres only concern when democraps run against democraps. Where was the concern back in '04 and '00?

45 posted on 02/26/2006 7:04:07 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (When in doubt, I ask myself: "What would Jack Bauer do?" My boss isn't going to like the answer...)
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To: Berosus; Cincinatus' Wife; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Do not dub me shapka broham; ...
Ping!
46 posted on 02/26/2006 7:54:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: LdSentinal
John F. Kerry (D) 2,475,046 51

George W. Bush * (R) 2,310,803 48

Detroit's voter rolls include as many as 20,000 dead people and roughly 100,000 wrong addresses,

Still doesn't quite do it but factor in Flint and Benton Harbor and who knows.

47 posted on 02/26/2006 7:58:35 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Bon mots
Keeping names of the deceased and nonresidents on the rolls allows votes to accidentally be marked in those names, Grebner said.

It also lets them DELIBERATELY vote in the name of dead people, fake people, and people who just don't vote themselves.

48 posted on 02/26/2006 8:03:46 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I don't know where you're from. You may not be aware that Detroit voters threw out the incumbent city clerk last November because of her shenanigans with voting irregularities. Baxter is working for the new city clerk. I'm a big fan of slamming the people who run Detroit, but there is no evidence to blame the new clerk and her administration for these problems. I hope they do clean these things up. It might cost our clueless governor a few votes this November, but she'll probably still win anyway. When I read the article this morning, I noted that it cited 132 instances of problems, not all of them in Detroit.


49 posted on 02/26/2006 8:11:41 PM PST by RushLake (The Democratic party--Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.)
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To: quantim
"If you remove about 5% in dem voter fraud, add a better candidate this time, we've got a new guv here."

Don't hold your breath until November. The kool aid drinkers are still blaming Engler for all the state's problems. Clueless said she could do a better job and the UAW and their limp wrist allies in the more "enlightened" communities believe her. Clueless blamed Bush in her state of the state a few weeks back. She's just innocently standing there trying to look attractive and the wascally wepubwicans are picking on her.

50 posted on 02/26/2006 8:15:56 PM PST by RushLake (The Democratic party--Mary Jo Kopechne is unavailable for comment.)
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To: RushLake
When I read the article this morning, I noted that it cited 132 instances of problems, not all of them in Detroit.

As I pointed out in my post #44, why would you bother voting 132 dead people? It's like stopping your car to get a returnable can (10c MI) from the side of the road. Unless the "poll workers" are actually voting from a clipboard...

51 posted on 02/26/2006 8:26:38 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: LdSentinal

The question remains... who did they vote FOR mostly?


52 posted on 02/26/2006 8:27:19 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: RushLake
She's just innocently standing there trying to look attractive and the wascally wepubwicans are picking on her.

Or as I call her: "Jenny Grabtax". ;-)

53 posted on 02/26/2006 8:28:00 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: LdSentinal
Holland City Clerk Jennifer French said she had no idea there was such a problem.

I have to wonder what planet she's been living on!

54 posted on 02/26/2006 8:28:04 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: Terriergal
The question remains... who did they vote FOR mostly?

Actually, the question should be: why bother voting "a handful" of dead people?

Unless there's more to this iceberg than meets the eye...

55 posted on 02/26/2006 8:29:58 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: an amused spectator
Actually, the question should be: why bother voting "a handful" of dead people?

Either you're right and there's more, or the person who did it was hoping it'd be so close five would help (each vote counts you know!) or that more people would be doing the same thing.

56 posted on 02/26/2006 8:34:28 PM PST by Terriergal ("My conscience is captive to the word of God...here I stand. I can do no other. So help me God." ML)
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To: Terriergal
I've always maintained that the proof of massive Michigan vote fraud lies in the numbers for the MI Supreme Court candidates.

We "vote" for Donks for the major Federal offices overwhelmingly, BUT Republican candidates for the MI Supreme Court breeze in. Why? Because the voter has to manually select the "non-partisan" judiciary slots on the ballots. A stroke of genius on the part of the MI lawmakers who wrote that one into law, and an unexamined clue as to what really goes on at the ballot box in SE Michigan.

I believe that time constraints prevent the Donk "poll workers" from voting that part of the ticket for their "votees".

57 posted on 02/26/2006 8:45:03 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: an amused spectator
why would you bother voting 132 dead people?

Yes indeed, just like the dead on the Titanic.  It's indicative of the tip of the iceberg.

58 posted on 02/26/2006 9:19:10 PM PST by quantim (Always aligned, never maligned, but sometimes out of phase.)
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To: RushLake
She's just innocently standing there trying to look attractive

Yes, but you can see that red laser bull's eye on her forehead a mile away, politically speaking.

She's going down.

59 posted on 02/26/2006 9:23:24 PM PST by quantim (Always aligned, never maligned, but sometimes out of phase.)
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To: LdSentinal
Holland City Clerk Jennifer French said she had no idea there was such a problem.

Ya don't say. LOL

60 posted on 02/26/2006 9:23:31 PM PST by Fruitbat
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