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Why Are Hundreds Of Coloradans Wrongly Arrested?
The Denver Channel.com ^ | 20Feb2006 | Denver Channel.com

Posted on 02/25/2006 5:23:45 AM PST by Oakleaf

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1 posted on 02/25/2006 5:23:48 AM PST by Oakleaf
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To: Oakleaf

what is the motivation behind this? does having an identified culprit have some incentive to local law enforcement versus an unknown suspect?

How does a case come up where no cop shows up, no witnesses or accusers are notified? surely the local LEO's who filed the charges have to know about this, and are not showing up because they know there is no case.


2 posted on 02/25/2006 5:30:46 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Oakleaf

The illegals all gotta quit using the same personal information or this will continue. Be more creative, take a name like Smith.


3 posted on 02/25/2006 5:32:12 AM PST by Modok
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To: Oakleaf

"Why Are Hundreds Of Coloradans Wrongly Arrested? "

This question demands an answer.


4 posted on 02/25/2006 5:33:02 AM PST by RoadTest ("- - a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people." - Richard Henry Lee, 1786)
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But when she went to Denver police to ask, she was arrested. "After they put me in handcuffs, they walked me down for booking. From there they fingerprinted me, they took my photo and they placed me in the cell," Rodriguez said.

Well, duh!! What in the world did she expect to happen?

There are times and places where legal representation is pretty handy to have. This situation is clearly one of them.

5 posted on 02/25/2006 5:42:02 AM PST by Bob
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To: Oakleaf

So where are the contingency-fee lawyers? It seems you should be able to win large monetary damages in these cases.


6 posted on 02/25/2006 5:44:49 AM PST by proxy_user
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This does not pass the smell test.

Let's say my name is Rodriguez (a common enough name), I beat someone, and ran away. How would anyone know my first and last name and have enough information to single me out among all the Rodriguez's to fill out a warrant?

(Unless, of course, I said something like, "Hello. My name is Valerie Rodriguez. You killed my father. Prepare to die".)

Valerie, mi amiga, this is the U.S. of A. You were found "not guilty" because your victim and the witness never showed up at your trial -- this does not mean you're innocent of the crime you committed. Deal with it.

7 posted on 02/25/2006 5:45:11 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: RoadTest

OK I ANAL

Arrest is not conviction.

You are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt only in criminal court.

In civil court you may be required to prove your innocence by the preponderance of evidence.

In the court of public opinion, where the MSM and activists and advocates practice, you are damned guilty on their say so alone, with no defense and no recourse. Tagline...


8 posted on 02/25/2006 5:45:45 AM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Oakleaf
Imagine the harm that could be done to ordinary citizens by a national ID system. One error in a government database, and you could spend years (and thousands of dollars) trying to clean up the mess.
9 posted on 02/25/2006 5:46:39 AM PST by Logophile
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To: Oakleaf

Only some traffic citations?

That alone can get a warrant issued around here.

Must be other areas also. I see it all the time on cops.


10 posted on 02/25/2006 5:47:40 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: robertpaulsen

"You were found "not guilty" because your victim and the witness never showed up at your trial -- this does not mean you're innocent of the crime you committed. Deal with it.
"

Do you believe the interview of the witness by the paper was a fabrication or that the witness lied to the paper?


11 posted on 02/25/2006 5:50:18 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Oakleaf
But that left her with an arrest on her record and few answers.

That’s all it takes to mess up much of your life – just an arrest, not a conviction. Sometimes bad things just happen, but if this article is factual it appears it isn’t a case of “defecation occurs”, but extremely lazy and sloppy police work.
12 posted on 02/25/2006 5:51:13 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott
Exactly. And for purposes of getting a job, its almost as bad as being a convicted felon. The presumption is you are guilty of something. It doesn't matter whether an arrest led to a trial or not. Human nature being what it is, people will believe the worst of you and your protesting you were mistakenly taken into custody by the police is viewed as evidence of your shifty character. You just can't win.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

13 posted on 02/25/2006 5:56:39 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: robertpaulsen

Until I settled in Newport News, I didn’t realize that Robert Scott was a common name – until I was pulled over for a “routine check”. I was fortunate in that the officer had the physical description of the suspect they were looking for. He was black and young, I am white and much older. On another occasion it wasn’t checked until I showed up in court. I was with the arresting officer when he kindly checked the computer to show me that he was right. There were several outstanding arrest warrants for “Robert Scott” – but they were all black and lived in the East End – a dozen miles from my neighborhood.
I now routinely check the local “outstanding warrants” page of the local PD website.


14 posted on 02/25/2006 5:59:02 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: goldstategop

Like my mother liked to say, “Where’s there’s smoke there’s fire.” She firmly believed that only criminal lowlifes were ever arrested.


15 posted on 02/25/2006 6:00:54 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Oakleaf
Stand by for rant:

This is not to minimize the outrage or to excuse the police (or whoever was involved in getting the warrants sworn out) for their role. But ...

Law Enforcement is underfunded. Our local taxes go for needless educational bureaucrats and for transfer programs of various kinds. The people in charge of appropriating local funds think of cops as thugs, and thugs is what they pay for. And, to a certain extent, thugs is what they get.

A lot of cops, including all the people I work with, without exception, really do want to serve and, frankly, like the possibility of excitement now and then. But all of us work WAY over the time we're paid to work.

What this means is that procedures critical to effectiveness are ignored, or executed perfunctorily. In particular after action review and analysis are neglected. So problems persist or go undetected.

In my office, if you're doing the paperwork which is legally required, and in any case prudent, after some action, and a prisoner needs to be moved from a courtroom to a holding cell or out to a transport van, you can bet you'll be interrupted to go assist in that. So the paperwork gets less attention (from a gang already characterized by ADHD tendencies) and only cursorily read, since usually the real reason for it is protection from liability -- I want my side of the story on file in case the guy I helped into an ambulance decides later to accuse me of stealing his wallet.

If you under pay people and then make it really hard for them to do a good job, then you won't get a good job done.

And the only way these innocent victims will get some reasonable compensation is if the whole thing can be portrayed not as the inevitable result of liberal policies, which is what it is, but as another example of the White sexist racist anti-gay culture acting like they don't kneel before an image of Hillary every morning when they rise.

Rant off. We now resume your normal programming.

16 posted on 02/25/2006 6:02:40 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Allahu Fubar! (with apologies to Sheik Yerbouty) and a Vang-Comp 870 for the ragheads!)
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To: R. Scott
I am white and much older.

Change your name to Shaka Shabazz Zulu, that will put a kink in the system.

17 posted on 02/25/2006 6:05:31 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mad Dawg

This is not to minimize the outrage or to excuse the police (or whoever was involved in getting the warrants sworn out) for their role. But ...

I voted to fund the troops but that was before I voted against it.

Obviously you knew that 'but' negated what you had just written.

18 posted on 02/25/2006 6:07:32 AM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: WoofDog123
"Do you believe the interview of the witness by the paper was a fabrication or that the witness lied to the paper?"

How long ago did the assault occur? The newspaper found the witness and did what, show him a picture of Rodriguez? What kind of picture? How old was the picture?

Let me answer your question this way. I believe the witness when he said he didn't recognize the current photo of Rodriguez. I also believe that doesn't mean squat.

How was the victim able to identify Rodriguez by her first and last name and enough information to fill out a warrant? Don't tell me she just picked her name out of thin air. There is a thing called "filing a false police report" you know.

I await your explanation.

19 posted on 02/25/2006 6:12:05 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Bob
Well, duh!! What in the world did she expect to happen?

I dunno. Justice maybe?

20 posted on 02/25/2006 6:20:48 AM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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