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The Tragic Treatment of the UAE Ports Deal
StrategyPage ^ | February 24, 2006 | Harold C. Hutchison

Posted on 02/25/2006 3:00:55 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4

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To: cripplecreek

people are mixing up three separate but interrelated issues here (and i don't mean you--i agree with you on this):
1. smearing our allies (a bad idea; but if the UAE refuses to let Jews enter, and if the UAE supported the talaban and supports hamas, this should be publicized);
2. free trade--a good idea
3. turning over our ports to the UAE: a bad idea, for security reasons.

free trade is not the same thing as weakening our security.


201 posted on 02/25/2006 8:21:50 AM PST by drhogan
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To: drhogan
i have read on FR that the UAE supported the talaban and still supports hamas.

And Libya has given up it's WMD program. Countries can change.

The UAE has shown that it is with the US on the WOT and South Korea, which shares a border with a country run by a madman, seems to have no problem with DPWorld.

Dubai Ports World set to manage new Busan port in South Korea.

202 posted on 02/25/2006 8:22:28 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Registered
And anybody who is not appropriately afraid must be wrong.

Well said.

It reminds me of this old graphic by Registered:


203 posted on 02/25/2006 8:22:30 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: drhogan
3. turning over our ports to the UAE

How many times must you be told we are NOT doing that?

204 posted on 02/25/2006 8:24:56 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; Canedawg; tkathy
Would you be less frightened

With all due respect, I think labelling people who have concerns about this deal as "frightened" diminishes them and belittes their argument. Many people who don't applaud this deal are rational people who care about their country.

205 posted on 02/25/2006 8:26:03 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: tomjohn77
Norway had a NO JEW paragraph that prohibited Jews entering the kingdom up till early 1880.

The world has moved on and grown up.

Perhaps you should, too.

206 posted on 02/25/2006 8:27:12 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Cornpone
The whole time I was there I never saw a church nor could I find a Bible in their book stores.

A list and pictures of Catholic churches in the UAE

Freedom of Religion in the UAE

207 posted on 02/25/2006 8:27:26 AM PST by kabar
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To: maica
The same is told to every visitor to downtown Baltimore.

LOL........don't tell me that; my niece just moved there!

208 posted on 02/25/2006 8:30:24 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: olezip

exactly!


209 posted on 02/25/2006 8:30:36 AM PST by drhogan
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To: syriacus

Great, great post!

I am frankly surprised when Hillary stands up and speaks out against this deal. Talk about balls.


210 posted on 02/25/2006 8:33:14 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: willstayfree

i completely agree with you.
it's interesting that bush always points out that we are at war when he is pushing for something he wants, but on the ports deal, bush seems to ignore the fact that we are at war.
the bush admin. is making the same mistake as the clinton admin.: they seem to think that free trade (generally a good thing) requires giving up our security.


211 posted on 02/25/2006 8:33:33 AM PST by drhogan
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To: PrinceOfCups

It certainly sounds like things have changed since I was there but I guess I'm one of those old farts who comes from the "Remember Pearl Harbor" school. My uncle was there and when I was young I remember how much he hated the Japanese and he would never forgive them. When I joined the service I thought they had changed. They hadn't. I think it was around 1985 or 1986 and President Reagan was in Tokyo for a G-8 meeting. At that time our economy wasn't so good and Japan was flying high. While our President was still inside the meeting a Japanese Minister, I can't remember which, came out and remarked to the gathered newspaper reporters that American servicemen in Japan were so poor because of inflation that they could only afford to 'stay on base and give each other AIDS.' I sold my only Japanese car the next week and swore I'd never buy another one. The WTC and 911 are my Pearl Harbor. It ain't logical but its the way I will always feel. Someone on here accused me of assigning guilt by association with regards to the U.A.E. I guess they're right. After all, their share of the blood pool for 911 is only about 315 souls.


212 posted on 02/25/2006 8:36:11 AM PST by Cornpone (Who Dares Wins -- Defame Islam Today -- Tell the Truth About Mohammed)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

i think letting the chinese government run our ports is even a worse idea than letting the uae run them.
the whole concept of foreign governments (chinese or uae)runnning our infrastructure is really bad.


213 posted on 02/25/2006 8:36:17 AM PST by drhogan
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To: dynoman

What kind of chauvanistic bs are you peddling? You obviously have some kind of nationalistic agenda. You want to take the oil money out of Texas, too? And who is running this lottery, anyway. You are talking nonsense. If you compare the Saudi capitalists to their nomadic ancestors who carried their wealth on camelback, then you would see the difference. Or, you could compare them to environmentalists who do not like oil, and fight drilling as the ones in Forida who prefer clean beaches. No oil money here, even though there is oil.


214 posted on 02/25/2006 8:37:27 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: cripplecreek
Nope, we should make it affordable for American companies to run them.

What the hell are you talking about? Make it affordable? Maybe some reparations would do the trick?

215 posted on 02/25/2006 8:38:06 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: reformedliberal; maica
My disappointment in the conservative media is high. I

This is the second time I've felt that way; I thought the Miers things was an out and out witch hunt. And the Cheney thing and the NSA thing just tipped me over the top.

I'm to the point where I hate "ours" as much as I hate "theirs."

I'm down to listening to Hume and Barone.

216 posted on 02/25/2006 8:40:12 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin

"What the hell are you talking about?"

I'm assuming that you read the rest of my comment or did it fill up the very limited ammount of space in your tiny brain? And here I was thinking lower taxes were a conservative ideal.


217 posted on 02/25/2006 8:44:29 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Howlin
Ok you have probably not read my other replies. It was an example of how easy it is to keep Jews out of the country. Since some people here gave me a hard time saying it was impossible to stagger Jews from entering a country.
218 posted on 02/25/2006 8:45:08 AM PST by tomjohn77
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To: cripplecreek
or did it fill up the very limited ammount of space in your tiny brain?

Resulting to bottom of the barrel personal insults really makes you look like a person who should be paid attention to.

219 posted on 02/25/2006 8:50:28 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Howlin

You're the one who could only handle half of my argument. Are you afraid that someone would agree that making it easier for American companies is a good idea?


220 posted on 02/25/2006 8:52:49 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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