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To: Dr. Frank fan
I'd pick this apart but then you would think you got away with changing the subject.

Let's try this again:

You - "all the people on the planes on 9/11 were Saudis, so why are we in Iraq?"

Me - " Did/do you oppose our actions in Afghanistan on that basis?"

Let me know if you ever want to answer my question.

Okay, we'll play by the rules. The majority (I've been corrected) of the people who flew the planes were Saudis as is Osama Bin Laden and I would imagine, most of Al-Quieda. And as far as I know, they were holed up in Afghanistan but have yet to be located.

The new government which has been formed in Kabul in its place was facilitated by nothing if not our military actions, exactly the thing you are complaining about when it happens in Iraq.

Thanks for the enlightenment. My guess is that we will be at war with one or both of these countries within a decade and for that, only time will tell.

354 posted on 02/26/2006 5:44:40 PM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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To: TradicalRC
The majority (I've been corrected) of the people who flew the planes were Saudis as is Osama Bin Laden and I would imagine, most of Al-Quieda. And as far as I know, they were holed up in Afghanistan but have yet to be located.

By "they" I assume you mean Al Qaeda, not "the people who flew the planes" (who all died on 9/11 and thus never had a chance to go hole up in Afghanistan afterwards). Anyway, what we've established I think is that the actual nationality of the hijackers isn't relevant to the price of tea in China. None of those hijackers were Afghans but you were (it appears) ok with the invasion of Afghanistan because Al Qaeda was there, end of story.

Well, hate to be the first (?) to break this to you but Al Qaeda (you know, the organization whose existence in Afghanistan apparently made you ok with military action in Afghanistan?) is now in Iraq. Like I said earlier in this thread, the affiliate there even been considerate enough to just go ahead and call themselves "Al Qaeda in Iraq" (just in case some of us are so dense that we don't quite get it, perhaps?). And yet you're griping about us being in Iraq. Based on what?

Seemingly, based on the nationalities of the 9/11 hijackers - which, as you've just essentially acknowledged, is irrelevant to anything. So, the irrationality of your original complaint is plain to see.

P.S. Oddly, you also speak as if you think that "Al Qaeda", or at least the majority of them, is still confined to Afghanistan and as if OBL is in Afghanistan as far as we know. You have no basis for believing or saying these things. Neither you nor I know where OBL is or even if he's still alive, and as far as you or I know (it's hard to get hard data), Iraq may actually be the primary locus of Al Qaeda at present. But hey even if so, don't let that stop you from griping about us having our military in Iraq. Funny how people are gung ho about fighting Al Qaeda if/when they can convince themselves that Al Qaeda only exists in Afghanistan, but then if Al Qaeda is in Iraq, suddenly it's a horrible idea for us to be in Iraq. "I wanna fight Al Qaeda but only inside the borders of Afghanistan" is a pretty bizarre rallying cry - not to mention a stupid one. Al Qaeda may not wish to cooperate, you know.

355 posted on 02/26/2006 6:55:54 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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