[r9etb]

What you end up saying is that socialism can help but win out in the end.

That may in fact be correct -- until it finally crashes and burns, and people end up having to fend for themselves again.

I can't remember whose "law" it is -- William Rusher's, perhaps -- that states, "any organization that is not explicitly conservative will become more liberal over time." Empirical observations tend to bear that out.

[William Terrell]

I'd bump it up a notch, "any organization that is explicitly conservative will become more liberal over time."

[LowCountryJoe]

Define "liberal": our founder's were "liberal" in the word's classical sense.