[A. Pole]

Hundreds of years ago the poor thought they could get what they wanted by burning and plundering. That didn't work.

You got it wrong. Hundreds of years ago it was the upper class (nobles/aristocrats) who got riches through war/"burning and plundering". The peasant serfs were not armed, they were making food eaten by the nobles while the craftsmen were making the other stuff used by the nobles.

You helped me to think about another tagline, thanx.

[expat_panama]

the upper class (nobles/aristocrats) who got riches through war/"burning and plundering".

Anybody think they can explain to A.Pole why burning and plundering won't make anybody rich.   It's difficult for me to put it into words because some how it just seems so obvious that it's plunder first and burn second

[nopardons]

How many hundreds of years ago, are you going back? I'm asking, because many hundreds of years ago, there was NO "middle class", as we recognize it today, at all.

It really wasn't until the Industrial Revolution, that today's version of the middle class, actually came into being and in societies, with a gentry/aristocracy class, what we would called "middle class", was still stuck in a kind of limbo.

WHY are you stuck in the middle ages?

Gee.........Chopin didn't burn and pillage, but he sure did rise in class and wealth!