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All Bush's Fault? (So far it is the pundits who are doing the backtracking, not the President.)
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | February 23, 2006 | Nick Nordseth

Posted on 02/23/2006 6:13:09 PM PST by new yorker 77

The conventional wisdom on the Dubai Ports World deal seems to have shifted in the last 24 hours. In the blogosphere the focus has jumped from its initial target -- the agreement itself -- to a new and familiar one: President Bush. For instance, Glenn Reynolds has decided:

I don't think there's any real security issue here, but I think the Bush Administration needs to launch a full-bore effort to explain what's actually going on, something that they still haven't really mounted...

I will admit that my knee jerked on hearing this story, and that I should have waited to learn more before offering an opinion. In my defense, I'll note that I gathered more information and changed my mind. Still, mea culpa.

But (and this is a separate point from the merits of the decision, or of my take thereon) it wasn't just me -- there were an awful lot of knees jerking on this decision, and the White House, or somebody, should have foreseen that. That doesn't get me off the hook, of course, but it doesn't reflect well on them, either.

James Lileks retreats somewhat as well:

The Bush administration may well be in the right, but they have handled this poorly – the remarks about vetoing any Congressional efforts to block the sale may have been aimed at Congress, but they splashed right in the face of the voters. The crafty response would have been to acknowledge the worries, assure a complete and total review and disclosure, and let the facts speak for themselves.

Meanwhile Tim Cavanaugh offers examples of some points he thinks Bush should have made. Like Reynolds, he says the DPW deal "doesn't involve port security, and if opponents think there's a security risk they haven't provided any evidence for that." But according to Cavanaugh, Bush is in trouble because he was caught flat-footed and unprepared to argue such straightforward points. He asks:

Who could get out of this fix?

I'll tell you who: NAFTA-era Bill Clinton, that's who! Explaining stuff like this is what Bill Clinton lived for. Just think back to that Clintonian love of factoids, that congenial explanation of the benefits that you, the listener, will directly receive, that enthusiastic drive to get you to share the president's love of policy minutiae. Clinton was great at this stuff because, whatever else he was, he was a man of the people. He understood (as Bush does) the benefit of a barrier-free market that might leave, say, Dubai Ports World providing services to American harbors. And he knew that populist panics are stupid and almost always wrong. But unlike Bush, he realized that populist panics come from deep within people's hearts, and that you have to respect that.

Critics have raised some serious concerns over the DPW deal, and it is clear that Bush made a mistake by brushing off these concerns. To be sure, there is a strong opposition that will not be won over so easily on the merits of the agreement (see Malkin, Hewitt, Huffington). So far, though, it is the pundits who are doing the backtracking, not the President.

Posted by Nick Nordseth on February 23, 2006 04:45 PM


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To: MJY1288
But I have a feeling that when the facts come out and when your hair burns itself out, you will be in the minority.

If my opinion ends up in the minority then the deal should stand. I admit that. Do you admit that if the tables are turned it should be stopped? Curious to see if you are honest. Let's find out.

201 posted on 02/23/2006 8:39:51 PM PST by sakic
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To: jec41
Facts matter; not hysterical, overtly emotional ravings, based on "feelings".

Many thanks for posting facts!

202 posted on 02/23/2006 8:40:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: MJY1288
You get more stupid each time you post or you just like to make up quite a few things. I have nothing against the Muslims here. My argument is against bringing in a Muslim run country from the Mideast to have anything to do with the NY ports.

Because you cannot stay on point and cannot respond coherently you feel the need to distort and smear what I have written here. Why is that?

203 posted on 02/23/2006 8:42:53 PM PST by sakic
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To: sakic

If it gets turned down that it gets turned down, but if it does we will have burned one of our best Allies in this struggle and we will pay a price for it. And yes, I will give you all the credit you want


204 posted on 02/23/2006 8:43:14 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: sakic
You know sakic, there are probably more dangerous Arabs living within walking distance of NYC than there are in the whole of the UAE. Yet your representatives have been spending all their time and effort defending their right to privacy so they can plot attacks in peace. Don't you find that the least bit intriguing? New Yorkers aren't worried about terrorism, they have done absolutely nothing to help get the Patriot Act renewed.
205 posted on 02/23/2006 8:43:20 PM PST by McGavin999 (If Intelligence Agencies can't find leakers, how can we expect them to find terrorists?)
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To: MJY1288; ohioWfan

I just heard that Dubai is willing to delay part of it's 6.8 Billion Dollar deal so everyone can be reassured that they will not be a threat to anyones security





GOOD for one primary reason. The bash Bush opportunists will be shown for the political hacks and frauds they are. Ditto for some pundits and posters.


206 posted on 02/23/2006 8:45:09 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: McGavin999
Watch out Mc. This one might sic the NYPD on you. He still hasn't acknowledged that his junior Senator was part of the administration that pardoned people who actually blew up things.
207 posted on 02/23/2006 8:45:56 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: sakic
"I have nothing against the Muslims here. My argument is against bringing in a Muslim run country from the Mideast to have anything to do with the NY ports."

ROFLMAO, I'm glad to hear you have nothing against Muslims.

Senator Byrd had nothing against Blacks when he was in the Klan, he just didn't want them to have anything to do with West Virginia... It all makes sense now, Thanks for clearing that up

208 posted on 02/23/2006 8:48:28 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: MJY1288

I bet some of his best friends are Muslims.


209 posted on 02/23/2006 8:49:49 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: sinkspur

LOL


210 posted on 02/23/2006 8:50:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: CWOJackson

I wonder why the same people shocked over this deal haven't been concerned at all that a Saudi company already has operations in one of our ports?

Oh Lord, maybe this will cause added grief...lol.

Surely a congressional hearing must be commenced immediately!

211 posted on 02/23/2006 8:51:47 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: sakic
Good Night bud, You have been amusing. No offense, but I have to get some sleep,

Cheers,
Mike

212 posted on 02/23/2006 8:52:43 PM PST by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: onyx

It wasn't conventient at the time for the Bush is all evil crowd.


213 posted on 02/23/2006 8:54:54 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Because they weren't given talking points, on the other ones.

It's now very obvious, that a whole lot of people can't think and that they are the robots, force fed with a script, which they repeat ad nauseum.

214 posted on 02/23/2006 8:57:47 PM PST by nopardons
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To: new yorker 77
I do not care what the pseudos post...

The fact is that Congress is responsible for our ports and they need to keep in mind the 3,000 lost n 9/11.

EOM! Except this...Muslims believe it is ok to lie, cheat, steal, do anything that advances their beliefs. Until they repudiate this thinking, they are not to be trusted!

Until Muslims agree to rescind any claim to Jerusalem, they do not deserve our consideration!

That is what the Port Deal is all about and don't forget it!
215 posted on 02/23/2006 8:58:05 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: nopardons

It is entertaining though. And the folks who are running with this red herring wonder why no one listens to them when it comes to politics.


216 posted on 02/23/2006 8:59:24 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: sakic
Okay I held my tongue, when I read that first foul post of yours, but this one goes even father; so I shan't remain quite.

First of all, you may have been in Manhattan, on 9/11, but how many friends and family member and acquaintances did YOU lose that day?

Many of us, who weren't in the area ( BTW, were YOU right by the towers, when they were hit? ), lost at least one person we knew and know many people who lost friends and family. It was a ripple effect. And then, there are people like me, who though they no longer live there, it IS our HOMETOWN and has been to many generations of my family.

And FYI...those damned terrorist LEARNED HOW TO FLY IN AMERICA; not in any Arab country.

Clinton ignored the FIRST bombing of the WTC and then did less than nothing to prevent another one, going so far as to NOT accept OBL, THREE SEPERATE TIMES!

And don't forget, dear, Manhattan was NOT the only target!

It's attitudes such as yours, that gives New Yorkers a bad rep. Were you even born there, or are you just a transplant?

217 posted on 02/23/2006 9:15:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: no-to-illegals
Guess you didn't hear, but the UAE and the company that bought out P&O is DOING BUSINEES WITH ISRAEL AND HAS BEEN, FOR A NUMVER OF YEARS!
218 posted on 02/23/2006 9:17:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: sakic
I do!

The Sears Tower in Chicago WAS and still is a target; so are places in California, D.C., and goodness only knows where else!

219 posted on 02/23/2006 9:21:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Guess you didn't hear, but the UAE and the company that bought out P&O is DOING BUSINESS WITH ISRAEL

Oh, criminy, don't let the Buchananites know!

220 posted on 02/23/2006 9:23:54 PM PST by Mojave
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