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Port Authority: We're suing to stop sale to Dubai firm
Newsday.com ^ | 2/13/2006 | KAREN MATTHEWS

Posted on 02/23/2006 12:30:50 PM PST by ARCADIA

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To: TomasUSMC

Excellent post and I love your tag line!!!


201 posted on 02/23/2006 1:28:08 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats...by Thomas Sowell)
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To: mnehrling
"I'm afraid that someone will convince a judge somewhere to block operational license to some of these terminals and completely shut down shipping for months on end until its resolved or another company can come in and set up shop..."

Don't buy the "operational license" agrument, it's a bogus one. The new owners of P & O need to acquire new contracts to operate at our ports, because when the British concern sold it to the UAE government, the original contracts to work at our six eastern ports expired; (exactly when I'm not sure, there may be some 'extention' period to facilitate the ownership transfer, etc).

Were it simply about applying for a "license" to work at our ports, then Osama bin Laden or Hugo Chaves could buy the company and be just a license application away from controlling our eastern seaport shipping terminals. (Actually, with the UAE in control, the bin Laden possibility becomes a little less remote). Anyway, this is about acquiring contracts, not license applications. Whoever threw this canard out there must have been paid by somebody.

202 posted on 02/23/2006 1:28:11 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: notigar
The money still smells the same.

If Rush has money invested in the deal that would probably hold true but I think in this case it's about politics. He got his marching orders.

203 posted on 02/23/2006 1:28:20 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Dane

....and an awful lot of Marines were mad at Reagan for that...


204 posted on 02/23/2006 1:28:41 PM PST by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

It's funny how all the friends of Dubai can't tell us why it's a GOOD deal.


205 posted on 02/23/2006 1:28:43 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: OldFriend
There is no way on earth for this country or any other to be 100% safe. NO WAY AT ALL

True. And there are some things within America's control, and some things that aren't. The argument I'm hearing from some is that since we can't take preventative measures everywhere, why take them anywhere?

206 posted on 02/23/2006 1:28:46 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: mnehrling
All we could stop would be the contracts to operate the facilities in the US or P&O's operational license in the US. If we do block operational licenses, then we would need to fill in that gap with another company. How long would it take P&O to remove all their assets, another company to move their assets in, and completely hire new staff and renegotiate contracts with the dockworkers.

If we blocked the assignment of those operational contracts the deal to acquire P&O would probably collapse. It certainly would need to be renegotiated because it would be worth a lot less to Port World without the 8 US ports. Rather than give up those contracts which would be a complete write-off and economic loss, P&O would probably opt to keep operating the ports themselves or find another buyer that was acceptable to the USA.

Fortunately for P&O shareholders, such a buyer exists. Port World was not the only company bidding for P&O assets. There was a huge Singapore based port operating company that was engaged in a bidding war against Port World for P&O. An article about this was posted somewhere on FR yesterday. Unfortunately for P&O shareholders this other company was apparently offering less and if Port World got knocked out of the game they might even revise there offer further downwards. But nobody ever said investing was risk free. I frankly am willing to deprive shareholders in a British Company of some return on their investment if I think it is the smartest thing for American security.

207 posted on 02/23/2006 1:29:13 PM PST by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: ARCADIA
Reagan would have nuked Dubai after 9/11.

More 'creative' thinking of one looking through the haze of nostalgia.

208 posted on 02/23/2006 1:29:25 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: eyespysomething

None. And I just looked.
I find it somewhat hypocritical to note the final battle is on, then be in favor of this deal. (Not directed at you.)


209 posted on 02/23/2006 1:29:31 PM PST by notigar
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To: dcgard
the country is UAE, not Dubai.

We often refer to seat of power in the US as Washington.

Same to me.

210 posted on 02/23/2006 1:30:52 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (Toon Town, Iran...........where reality is the real fantasy.)
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To: jess35
do ya still want to play the guilt-by-association game?

Welcoming Terror to U.S. Ports (From David Horowitz's Frontpagemag.com)

The HAMAS statement included a special tribute: "One can never forget the generous donations of the late Sheikh Zayed Bin Sultan,” the father of the current UAE president. Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al Nahayan of Abu Dhabi, was the first Arab leader to understand the importance of waging economic Jihad against the West

211 posted on 02/23/2006 1:30:56 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: billbears
>>>>But this is a business transaction that in no way threatens national security.

I disagree. This is a national security issue. It is somewhat disturbing to see so many FReepers posting opinions in support of allowing this sweetheart deal to go through without questioning its legitimacy. The world has changed since 9-11 ans we need to remain vigilant at all times. People need to wake up and understand that jihadism is alive and well. Jihadism lives throughout the ME. Including, in the UAE!

212 posted on 02/23/2006 1:30:57 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: antaresequity

idiots indeed. It now seems like everyone is jumping into the bandwagon without carefully considering their take on the situation. My first impression of this matter was "wtf!!?" but following the latest developments, I think it wopuld be in good hands, or in the hands of the chinese, take your pick. it is a port operation permit, not a takeover. security and ownership still is ours, this is a lease. UAE would certainly make lots of money, with one out of thee ppl being a millionare.. the economic influx would be good. UAE is no hurry to let a bunch of militants crash and burn their golden goose you know. Bush is following an old strategery here: keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. Libs without knowing have admitted there really is a threat of terrorism...


213 posted on 02/23/2006 1:31:24 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Mo1

No problem. Just wanted to note that despite it being her domain.........nothing was ever said about her lack of attention to the operations under her control.


214 posted on 02/23/2006 1:32:17 PM PST by OldFriend (..)
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To: jackbenimble
I doubt it. P&O is a massive company and this has already gone through so much regulatory scrutiny in the UK that the legal standpoint of the newly merged company is strong to hold existing contracts. Just a little information that I'm sure most haven't read:

http://production.investis.com/po/rns/rnsitem?id=1133247817nRNSc8063U
http://production.investis.com/po/rns/rnsitem?id=1133247826nRN2c8063U
http://production.investis.com/po/rns/rnsitem?id=1133247821nRN1c8063U

These are the terms of sale of P&O to DPI.
215 posted on 02/23/2006 1:33:02 PM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: ohioWfan

Please explain how does the deal make sense financially? And for whom?


216 posted on 02/23/2006 1:33:04 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: Dane
The point being is that a UK citizen was part of al-queda, as was US citizen johnny(jihad) walker lindh.

And the implied point being that the middle east is no more likely to produce terrorists than anywhere else. Hooray for politically correct relativism!

217 posted on 02/23/2006 1:33:07 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
When the dust settles on this controversy....I believe that the deal will go through and be forgotten in 6 months.

Bingo! It boils down to this question. Does alienating the few Arab countries willing to help us in the WoT, help us or hurt us?

I would love to totally ignore that part of the world, and not have to deal with them, but that is just not reality.

218 posted on 02/23/2006 1:33:51 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: frankjr
With 9/11, the UAE must know they will be under the microscope.

The problem as I see it isn't necessarily the government of UAE, it's the possibility of terrorist infiltration through bribery and other tactics. There's no way this government can be sure that's not going to happen unless they set up a whole new separate task force just to keep an eye on them, which I guarantee we're going to see happening eventually if the deal goes through.

219 posted on 02/23/2006 1:34:09 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: notigar

I'm kind of surprised actually.

;-)


220 posted on 02/23/2006 1:34:44 PM PST by eyespysomething
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