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LIVE THREAD: Senate Hearing: Briefing on Ports Deal (11:00 a.m. EST)
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Posted on 02/23/2006 6:58:42 AM PST by Howlin

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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Hell, why not every business? After all, everything, even a mom and pop grocery could be a stage for terrorists.. You know, government running all businesses or at least maintaining majority ownership will keep all them fereners from gettin in har..

Back to reality.. it isn't Ports that are being sold.. it is the operation of container facilities at the ports. This is akin to a warehouse sitting at the side of an interstate.
61 posted on 02/23/2006 7:25:03 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: mnehrling

Good assessment. And, even if Bush did have a 'deal" with Dubai, it was one where they agreed to give us something that was not even required for the whole thing to pass. The Dims and MSM (and a lot of "Repubs") must have clooged suinuses - they can't smell the pile they are stepping in.


62 posted on 02/23/2006 7:25:07 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: trebb

I'm just waiting for these container facilities (again, not the actual ports..) to shut down for six months while congress yaks...


63 posted on 02/23/2006 7:26:41 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I predict that your prediction comes true!


64 posted on 02/23/2006 7:27:05 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Dems have yet to get their "cartoon" moment.

I thought about adding that in my comment. Both took about the same length of time to ferment.

65 posted on 02/23/2006 7:27:16 AM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: mnehrling

Why not just Federalize the ports and continue to operate security by the Coast Guard, Homeland Security, etc? Heck, we've Federalized tens of thousands of acres of national parks, state parks and the like, especially in the past 25 years. Why not a few thousand acres that have strategic importance to this nations economy and security.


66 posted on 02/23/2006 7:28:45 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: traderrob6
Ignorance reigns supreme.

That depends on which side of the fence one is on.

67 posted on 02/23/2006 7:29:31 AM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

When I saw 'the swimmer's' name, I thought I heard the sound of ice clinking in a glass.


68 posted on 02/23/2006 7:30:52 AM PST by processing please hold (Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clinched fist)
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To: trebb
And, even if Bush did have a 'deal" with Dubai, it was one where they agreed to give us something that was not even required for the whole thing to pass.

Exactly. Dubai currently allows us to STATION Customs and DHS people at THEIR PORTS to inspect cargo leaving the UAE.

The UAE has been an ally of ours for years. We have sold them F-16's and many other arms. We have Military bases on thier soil. They are one of the most progressive societies in the entire Muslim world. Women have full rights garaunteed by their constitution. Heck they are currently hosting a Women's Professional Tennis Tournament. EEK Women in Tiny Tennis Dresses (Maria Sharapova hubba hubba) in public, playing a sport. How barbaric!!!!

69 posted on 02/23/2006 7:31:03 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

I'm sure he's VERY afraid!


70 posted on 02/23/2006 7:31:19 AM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Why not just Federalize the ports and continue to operate security by the Coast Guard, Homeland Security, etc? Heck, we've Federalized tens of thousands of acres of national parks, state parks and the like, especially in the past 25 years. Why not a few thousand acres that have strategic importance to this nations economy and security.

Because, guess what, technically, the ports are federalized and the security is run by DHS and the Coast Guard..
You've fallen for the misrepresentation of this entire issue. The Ports themselves are not being sold, nor, technically the operation of the ports. P&O runs container facilities at the ports and has nothing to do with security. The operation is akin to a travel agent booking people on airplanes. They have a much to do with security as the guy who works at McDonalds at the airport..
71 posted on 02/23/2006 7:31:30 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: zarf

Re#18 They did and you are right. The 'secret' review process and approval was pursuant to an act of Congress. They are, in the main, a bunch of self preserving idjits....


72 posted on 02/23/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by eureka! (Hey Lefties and 'Rats: 3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: pbrown

{"Are the Saudis wanting to control our ports?"}

We have huge commercial interactions with the Saudis, and they are right here among us no doubt in sensitive places.

But this isn't about either Saudi or UAE "controlling our ports". Our own laws and our own rules and regulations and our own enforcement and security agencies "control our ports".

True under the Brit company before; will remain true under the UAE one.


73 posted on 02/23/2006 7:32:21 AM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

Yeah...but she wouldn't mind having Osama come build some roads in Washington though, would she??


74 posted on 02/23/2006 7:33:56 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Howlin

Thanks for the ping...lurking in the office:)


75 posted on 02/23/2006 7:34:10 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: txrangerette

I know....I was being facetious...but, forgot the facetious tag! LOL


76 posted on 02/23/2006 7:36:02 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: mnehrling
What do you mean "technically"? Either the government (we the people) owns these ports or we do not.

Here's how you put to rest the xenophobes like me. Assure me the ports are owned by the Federal Government and security is implemented by Federal LEA's and the Coast Guard. THEN make the case that the business can be outsourced to a company in Dubai.

77 posted on 02/23/2006 7:36:38 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: All
An explaination of the process and codes/regulations involved .. if anyone is interested in the mundane
78 posted on 02/23/2006 7:37:31 AM PST by deport
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To: Howlin

A janitor will drop a lightbulb in the outer hallway and that's the last we'll see of Mark Dayton.


79 posted on 02/23/2006 7:37:34 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: Howlin
it's going to be fun watching them making their speeches based on yesterday's talking points.

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Thanks for the ping! This will be fun.

80 posted on 02/23/2006 7:37:45 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World. Democrats and the media are not on our side.)
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