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[I point these things out to first establish that the UAE is the WRONG choice so far as managing port operations for the United States, particularly when military equipment is going to be routed through those ports. That would be like authorizing a Nazi firm managed by Albert Speer to oversee the ports from which our troops and supply ships were using to keep the Allied war effort alive during WWII.

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To return to the Nazi analogy, during World War II, there were no doubt many Germans who expressed their public horror at the misdeeds and crimes of Hitler, but how many of those Germans were secretly rooting for der Fuehrer, and would have shielded and assisted German espionage agents?]


I like the analogy, but I would modify it a little bit.

During WWII we allied with Russia in spite of misgivings at the fact that Stalin was less than an ideal human rights advocate, and the fact that many of the Russian people were ideological opposed to the United States way of life and hoped that we would fall (after we took care of Hitler for them).

We did in fact trust Russia with our mutual military security, but only so far as we knew it was in their national interest, and no further. I believe that Russia during WWII is more analogous to Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates today than to Iran or Syria.

In any case, I am seriously skeptical of the notion that this is a deal put together (especially with Democrats Carter and Clinton involved ) motivated by paying off political buddies. This simply doesn't resemble that, and whatever the motivation is, it's something besides that.
74 posted on 02/21/2006 5:07:08 PM PST by spinestein (All journalists today are paid advocates for someone's agenda.)
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To: spinestein
I like the analogy, but I would modify it a little bit. During WWII we allied with Russia in spite of misgivings at the fact that Stalin was less than an ideal human rights advocate, and the fact that many of the Russian people were ideological opposed to the United States way of life and hoped that we would fall (after we took care of Hitler for them). We did in fact trust Russia with our mutual military security, but only so far as we knew it was in their national interest, and no further. I believe that Russia during WWII is more analogous to Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates today than to Iran or Syria.

That is a good observation, and I think this is a good place to point out that our cozying up with Stalin, and suddenly making Mother Russia our "pal", coupled with the fact that FDR's administration was shot through with Communist sympathizers, we ended up paying the price to Stalin's covert team of the Rosenbergs, their contact Harry Gold, and the insane Klaus Fuchs in the UK, and as a result of our befriending Stalin vs. Hitler, the Soviets exploded their first atomic bomb in 1949, probably a decade earlier than if we had not been the victims of Communist spies in our own atom program.

In any case, I am seriously skeptical of the notion that this is a deal put together (especially with Democrats Carter and Clinton involved ) motivated by paying off political buddies. This simply doesn't resemble that, and whatever the motivation is, it's something besides that.

I tend to agree. I don't think this is necessarily a "pay off buddy" deal, I quite frankly think the President has begun to believe his own rhetoric about "Islam is a religion of peace". Any Christian who simply observes what the REAL God's Word says about "by their fruits you shall know them", ought to realize that Islam is nothing but a satanic death cult which incorporates a few christian "principles" to make it appealing to the masses, but it denies the Divinity of Jesus Christ, and that automatically qualifies as being the "spirit of antichrist".
80 posted on 02/21/2006 5:56:54 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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