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So, let's see. You've had, what, 30 posts now (in THIS thread alone) to simply show how much your "cascading" increases prices over and above the ACTUAL TAX PAID, in ANY example ... and what have we got?

NOTHING!

But, then that is the answer isn't it? Your "cascading" doesn't increase prices any more than the ACTUAL TAX PAID does it? All that spewing you've done about "hidden taxes" that are not actual taxes, but inflate prices more than the actual taxes do is, well, BUNK.

You claim it's there, you just can't figure out how to show anyone how big the effect is ... because the effect is NONEXISTENT.

You want us to consider costs other than the ACTUAL TAX and compliance cost PAID? Then show us that ANY such costs exist! So far, you've not shown a PENNY of cost in ANY example that is not ACTUAL TAX PAID, ACTUAL PROFIT, or ACTUAL BUSINESS COST; not a penny!

If these costs are so egregious, how hard could it be to show how much they are in SOME example?

So far, YOUR example has 33.88% of price as ACTUAL TAX PAID on 98.5% ACTUAL PROFIT and 1.5% ACTUAL COST (where's the "hidden tax" cost?) HINT: there is none.

In Your Nightmare's example we've got 4.76% of price as ACTUAL TAX PAID on 6.4% ACTUAL PROFIT, and 93.6% ACTUAL COST (where's the "hidden tax" cost?) HINT: there is none.

Your claim that taxes do not cause raising of prices is, I say again, more "preposterous nonsense".

Again, you can't seem to get it right: I have always maintained that taxes raise prices by NO MORE than the ACTUAL TAX and compliance cost PAID!

You're the one who keeps shopping this fictitious "Prices go up more than the taxes" nonsense thorough the fictitious "cascading" mechanism that "artificially inflates prices" beyond the amount of the actual taxes. PROVE IT. Show us ANY additional cost in ANY example that is not ACTUAL TAX PAID, ACTUAL PROFIT, or ACTUAL BUSINESS COST.

Go ahead. Show us SOMETHING greater than ZERO.

We're all still waiting ...

That's a hoot!!! You've now tacked on compliance costs after arguing they were basically nonexistent. At least you have things partly right when you say:

"I have always maintained that taxes raise prices by NO MORE than the ACTUAL TAX and compliance cost PAID!"

It's the underlined part that you've "always maintained" - and incorrectly so. As I've said, it's a waste of time trying to educate you on the proces involved since you're either totally stupid or so completely locked into your anti-FairTax agenda that you can admit nothing else. Or perhaps it's your hyperactive ego rattling around.

And many months ago on these threads we repeatedly hashed your preposterous nonsense about actual taxes being everything and cascading of them not existing (as you pretend). I told you then that was insubstantial piffle and not true ... and that's still the case today despite the fact it would kill you to admit it. Since educating you didn't "take" then there's no reason to believe it would now.

In any event the post #323 shows the mechanism of cascading embedded taxes quite nicely - but you have to both read and understand it. There's some considerable question that you can do more than one of those at the same time (if that). You're also making incorrect claims about Nightie's example and I notice you won't even admit he shows about a 15% leeway for price decreases wven without correcting for his purposeful distortions - sort of like honor among thieves I guess.