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To: Finny
It doesn't change the fact that a lot of conservatives didn't bother to vote because of disillusionment with a governor...

Which is not fact at all, as there are absolutely ZERO statistics published by the Secretary of State showing voter participation by Party, let alone by 'Conservative.'

You bet I blame a flawed election and campaign partly on conservatives...

You blame the flawed election and campaign on conservatives? What conservatives? The campaign wasn't run by conservatives. Some will go to any lengths to blame everything on conservatives--Amazing!

...an "expert" who says the LA Times isn't biased in its polling isn't going to change that view.

The LA Times poll he was citing was a whole lot more accurate than the SurveyUSA garbage that folks were trying to push on this forum. Remember these threads? Some here still want to drink this kool-aid.

2005 California Special Election (Arnold Winning On Initiatives! A Blueprint For The GOP In 06 & 08?
RealClear Politics ^ | October 15-17, 2005 | Staff
Posted on 10/21/2005 8:21:40 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Don't believe the lies: Schwarzenegger's Propositions all winning
SurveyUSA ^ | 10/17/05 | Dangus
Posted on 10/17/2005 4:27:22 PM PDT by dangus

With the reference to the "expert" (you put in quotes), Arnold Steinberg, I assume you're trying to paint him as some sort of hack? And what will you call the Weekly Standard? A leftist rag?
Arnold Steinberg, probably California's smartest political strategist, predicted the disaster, arguing the mistake was in the bundling of all those propositions in a special election (see, in these pages, Steinberg's "Losing Propositions," Nov. 21). Any of them individually, provided it was included on a regularly scheduled ballot, might well have passed. Together, they allowed the opposition to pool their considerable resources.

57 posted on 02/21/2006 3:37:59 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Proposition 73: Physicials must notify a parent of a pregnant minor 48 hours before performing the abortion.

Proposition 74: Delays probationary period for new teachers from 2 years to five years, making it easier to terminate teachers with unsatisfactory performance evaluations.

Proposition 75: Prohibits unions from spending money on political campaigns without the consent of their members.

Proposition 76: Constrains spending growth to revenue growth.

Proposition 77: Removes authority for designing congressional boundaries from state legislators. Instead, voters must approve plans drawn up by a panel of retired judges.

Which of these initiatives did you not support? And which ones do you think would have been proposed by Cruz Bustamonte if he were governor instead of Arnold?

Conservatives who didn't show up to vote for these measures screwed the pooch. They lost a chance that RINO Arnold presented to start to set things right. All the red herrings about polls and excuses about timing don't change that. I remember at the time letters from the editor and posts on Free Republic from so-called "principled" conservatives who basically took the line that, "Arnold is a RINO, so what's the use. I'm staying home." The measures lost, some by close measures, if I remember correctly. What a way to help California. Some will go to great lengths to blame everything on RINOs. Amazing!

58 posted on 02/21/2006 4:32:26 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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