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Bush, Fox Discuss Mexico Border Security
Washington Post/AP ^ | February 20, 2006

Posted on 02/20/2006 11:43:35 AM PST by SwinneySwitch

MILWAUKEE -- President Bush and President Vicente Fox of Mexico exchanged ideas Monday on how to stop violence and improve security along the two countries' mutual border, the White House said.

Press secretary Scott McClellan said that Bush telephoned Fox while traveling here to give a speech and said the pair "talked about working together" to improve conditions that have been a source of friction between the two countries.

McClellan told reporters that Bush has designated Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff to talk to his counterpart in Mexico about the problem and said that Bush and Fox also talked about pending immigration legislation in Congress

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; bordersecurity; borderwar; bush43; chertoff; dhs; hispandering; immigration; immigrationplan; issues; mexico; vicentefox
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To: basil
The Wall Street Journal.
101 posted on 02/20/2006 3:00:51 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: SwinneySwitch
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102 posted on 02/20/2006 3:01:56 PM PST by dennisw ("What one man can do another can do" - The Edge)
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To: Rebelbase

"bots"

???


103 posted on 02/20/2006 3:03:32 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Icelander

LOL!!!!!!


104 posted on 02/20/2006 3:04:08 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: American Quilter

" I just don't understand his thinking."

Ever get involved in local politics? I've got a feeling there's some little deals back in Texas that he is still paying off.


105 posted on 02/20/2006 3:07:41 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Czar; SwinneySwitch
Can you provide us with a cite for this?

As you can see, a cite has already been provided, although this is a long been a well-established fact which really doesn't require a cite.

What the article in the link provided by SwinneySwitch didn't explain was what Bush tried to do to get the site shut down.

In addition to threatening a copyright infringement lawsuit for using photos and images off the 'official' Bush campaign web site, Bush filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission, asserting that the site's owner had violated election laws by not registering as a political committee, and urged that the site's "fair market value" put the endeavor well over the $1000 threshold that defines a political (action) committee under election law.

It was only after the FEC told Bush to go pound sand that he uttered his famous phrase showing exactly what his opinion is on the freedoms we enjoy --he thinks we have too much freedom.

Instead of using private means to resolve his dispute, such as buying out the domain's owner or suing in civil court, Bush tried to sic the federal government on the site's owner and have him labeled as a PAC.

106 posted on 02/20/2006 3:21:57 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

You don't get around much do you? If you did, you'd find out the anger is increasing across the board on this issue. Americans that are truly informed on this march to national suicide are solidly against illegal immigration for many reasons that should be obvious to anyone with half a brain. I know that leaves out many folks who listen/watch to the MSM useful idiots or those working for "the race". If your #'s were even close (which they aren't) initiatives like PROP 200 in AZ would never have passed (which it did).


107 posted on 02/20/2006 3:24:14 PM PST by american spirit
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To: SwinneySwitch

Same old, same old.

Talk is cheap, nothing ever happens.

Nothing to see here, please move along.


108 posted on 02/20/2006 3:26:40 PM PST by RightWinger
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To: Czar
I would still like to see this properly sourced.

Have you Googled it yet? It is sourced all over.

109 posted on 02/20/2006 3:27:32 PM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
...immigration is considered to be an important issue by roughly 5% of the America people.

I don't know where you got that 5% number, every number that comes up in a search is above 2/3 to 70% to 90%. For example, just one link:

"Moreover, public opinion polls taken over the last five years have consistently found that roughly 70 percent of Americans think the United States should not make it easier for illegal aliens to become citizens (Figure 4)."

link

110 posted on 02/20/2006 3:38:40 PM PST by texasbluebell
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
"...this is a long been a well-established fact which really doesn't require a cite."

By now you should be aware that anything said that is critical of Bush will be challenged by one or more of the FR resident GOP/RNC Big Tenters. So cites are always necessary when dealing with these people.

"...what Bush tried to do to get the site shut down."

I appreciate the additional information which you provided here. It certainly does not make Bush look good. Very unwise behavior. If you're a public figure, you have to take this kind of crap.

"It was only after the FEC told Bush to go pound sand that he uttered his famous phrase showing exactly what his opinion is on the freedoms we enjoy --he thinks we have too much freedom."

Anyone who believes we have too much freedom, and wants to curtail it, is not fit to be president.

"...Bush tried to sic the federal government on the site's owner and have him labeled as a PAC."

I can understand Bush's frustration with what must have been on that anti-Bush site. Still, freedom of speech is too precious to trust its safekeeping to politicians. Any politician. And, with his refusal to deal with CFR (he punted to SCOTUS rather than veto it), Bush failed the freedom of speech test.

111 posted on 02/20/2006 3:41:25 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I would love to see the source for that poll.
112 posted on 02/20/2006 3:44:37 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: kenth

Right. They are screwing us.


113 posted on 02/20/2006 3:45:58 PM PST by amihow
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To: Czar
By now you should be aware that anything said that is critical of Bush will be challenged by one or more of the FR resident GOP/RNC Big Tenters. So cites are always necessary when dealing with these people.

As someone who is extremely critical of Bush, I know this all too well.

I appreciate the additional information which you provided here. It certainly does not make Bush look good. Very unwise behavior. If you're a public figure, you have to take this kind of crap.

You're welcome.

Yup. Unless your name is George W. Bush.

In this case, his solution to having protestors criticize him was to lock them up in chain-link-fence-surrounded, razor-wire-topped areas guarded by armed US military personnel, then label this a "Free Speech Zone".

Once again, this starkly demonstrates Bush's hatred of the freedom of speech (where it's critical of him) and the means he will use to curtail it.

Anyone who believes we have too much freedom, and wants to curtail it, is not fit to be president.

This was one of the big reasons I didn't vote for him in 2000. His non-amnesty amnesty and Social Security Totalization Agreement with Mexico (signed June, 2004) are the main reasons why I didn't vote for him in 2004.

I can understand Bush's frustration with what must have been on that anti-Bush site. Still, freedom of speech is too precious to trust its safekeeping to politicians. Any politician. And, with his refusal to deal with CFR (he punted to SCOTUS rather than veto it), Bush failed the freedom of speech test.

Failed it many times over.

114 posted on 02/20/2006 3:56:10 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Send them a Nada Peso!

Did that along with the request form so they will know who it is from...one of the guys on the ground that phoned, put up posters and stuffed envelopes for GW.

115 posted on 02/20/2006 4:11:29 PM PST by engrpat
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To: andy58-in-nh

I already gave it.


116 posted on 02/20/2006 4:38:38 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

A Harris on-line poll of .004% of US "Adults" - not "voters", much less "likely voters" - does not tell us anything. Especially when sampling cross-referential categories weighted by demographic expectations. You'll get a much better idea of what people think about immigration by going to three or four local pubs and taking a hand count.


117 posted on 02/20/2006 4:52:27 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Great Scot! I have finally found someone around here that may be slightly to the right of me (not easily accomplished), and I defer to no one when it comes to who is more hard right rudder.

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams

You chose a truly great quote for your homepage.

Words to live by, if only we would.

118 posted on 02/20/2006 4:54:47 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Thanks for the link.

After studying this poll for a while, I have come to the conclusion that either rank and file Americans are pretty stupid, or that Harris deliberately went after the dumbest folks in the universe.

Anyone in this day and age who puts national security that far near the bottom of their "issues" is not, IMO, working with a full deck.

119 posted on 02/20/2006 5:06:13 PM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

This whole thing is about our National Sovereignty; and our ability to live free! This issue of Immigration is certainly worth bashing the President over. Many frustrating hours of pleading for sanity and reason have gone down the toilet for the inefficient manner he himself has encouraged. This issue is going to signal defeat if allowed to continue to be politicized. We either have a secure border and and a secure future or we have a porous sieve laced with tunnels pretending it is a border when its not. This is deadly serious business for every American. Your "FREE REPUBLIC"?; is at stake and our enemies are depending on us to deal and do business with a snake in the grass down south. Bush is not so much dangerous for what he does but rather for what we allow him to get away with!


120 posted on 02/20/2006 5:33:26 PM PST by winker
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