Posted on 02/20/2006 10:41:54 AM PST by bildabare
"In effect, this would have the State of California certify that the Muslim deity is the true God."
You might know it would be California. Dear God, when is that freakin' state going to do humanity a favor and fall into the ocean?
Guess what? Muslims have their own superhero comic book called "The 99" - A Muslim's Own Superhero Comic Book
More slouching toward dhimmitude.
http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2006/02/99-muslims-own-superhero-comic-book.html
No.
Ilah is the Arabic word for G-d. Allah is the name of the moon rock that the Muslims worship.
Any Christian or Jew that calls G-d, "Allah" is being politically correct and appeasing to the Muslims.
Allah IS a deity distinct from Jehovah, sharing few of the attributes assigned to the Supreme Being worshiped by Judaism and its descendent religion, Christianity. Even that peculiar modification of Christianity, the Latter Day Saints, still holds to the worship of the merciful God Jehovah.
Allah, on the other hand, sanctions the most atrocious and vengeful actions of men against other men, and has no qualities of mercy or forgiveness anywhere. Truly, it has provided license for all forms of mental derangement. The tenets of the faith are all utterly logical, but arrive at totally bizarre conclusions.
In the eternal battle between Ahura Mazda and Ahriman, Ahriman won the battle for the souls of men in the Assyrian Desert and assumed the name "Allah".
Actually not. The Muslims recognize all, or at least most, of the "Old Testament" prophets, heroes, etc. They even recognize Jesus of Nazareth, but not as the Son of God, but merely as one more prophet.
They feel that Muhammad was the last prophet sent by God, sort of like David Koresh I guess. They also, unlike Koresh, they think there neither will nor can be any other prophets since the 7th century when Mo came on the scene.
"allah" is merely "god" in Arabic.
When they say "There is no god but God", but in Arabic, they use the word "allah" for both the lower case "god" and the capitalized "God".
Now their vision of God varies quite a bit from the Judeo-Christian vision, much more so than they differ from one another.
Hmm, sounds like just about every other religion out there.
Well, according to Jews, God has no son either. Are you saying the Jewish God is different from the Christian God???
Your ignorance of Islam is evident. Islam worships the same deity that proclaimed himself to be the God of Abraham. Whether you believe it is "the same God" or not really is of no significance because it is historically accurate to say that Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are all spawned from the same mythical deity.
Not quite so fast. The first time I attended a Turkish-language Mass in Istanbul, it was a bit of a shock to hear the Creed begin with belief in Allah. However, that is simply the Turkish word for God. It doesn't mean that Turkish Catholics believe in the Islamic Allah.
As for whether the Islamic Allah is the same as the God of Christians and Jews, one has to look at the characteristics of God and Allah, as described by their respective followers. As pointed out earlier, the Christian God is Triune; the Islamic Allah is not. The Christian God is a God of love; the Islamic Allah is a god of vengeance. The Christian God warns that murderers will go to Hell; the Islamic Allah promises that murderers of infidels will go to a heaven populated with dark-eyed virgins.
No way the two are the same.
It's worth remembering that "God" is not God's name. It is a description, not a name. We name things so we can tell similar items apart. God is unique; a name is not necessary. When Moses asked "who shall I say sent me?" he was expecting a name. All the gods he knew about had names. The reply was "I am." That, too, was a description, not a name. But it made the point.
I'd heard that Islam in actuality professes a god other than the God of Abraham, a god of the panthelon of sumer. Trying to find info on the net about this. Could be a rumor.
It seems you don't know jack about Judaism.
all spawned from the same mythical deity.
Yeah, right. (Just as I suspected.)
Sooner or later, you'll change your tune.
Well then who is the Son of God, according to the Jews? It's certainly not J.C.
The (coming) Messiah. The Christ.
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So since the messiah has not arrived, God has no son.
So we can agree there are some differences in doctrine between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It doesn't change the fact that Islam worships the same God of Abraham.
As I said before, Muslims say "Allah has no son." Jews believe God's Son is eternal and that He is coming. So, it seems there is a difference.
But, as far as you're concerned, we might as well be debating about whose tooth fairy is the real one.
Take, for example, the shahada, the creedal statement that Muslims believe that saying once makes you Muslim. lā 'ilaha 'illāl-lāhu Muhammadur rasūlu llāhi. Literally, this says, "There is no god but God, and Muhammed is God's messenger." The same word is used for both.
As further confirmation, talk with an Arabic Christian. He will invariably call God Allah in his own language.
The issue dividing Christians and Muslims isn't the word they use to identify their deity. "God" or "Allah" is not the distinction - the distinction is theology, rather than nomenclature.
Actually, Jews don't believe the Messiah is God's son. At best, he is God's messenger. Many Jews believe the Messiah is a metaphor. You cannot read the Trinity into Judaism - Judaism has developed in response to Christian Trinitariansim.
We'll all be sniffing the butt of the Islamazi in front of us 5 times a day if we ever let California decide ANYTHING...
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