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Liberals Demand Congressional Probe of NSA Wiretap Program
CNSNews.com ^ | February.20, 2006 | Susan Jones

Posted on 02/20/2006 9:25:10 AM PST by Reagan Man

(CNSNews.com) - A liberal advocacy group is organizing "Constitution Vigils" on Wednesday to prod Congress to investigate President Bush's alleged "lawbreaking" in connection with the National Security Agency surveillance program.

"We believe that public pressure will force Congress to take this seriously," MoveOn.org said in an email message to supporters.

"When our elected officials are home for the President's Day break, they need to see the faces of people in their community who expect them to hold the president accountable. If thousands of us come together, we'll give Congress the push they need to go all the way."

MoveOn.org is urging Bush opponents to either attend or host one of many "vigils" taking place across the country on Wednesday, Feb. 22.

"At each vigil, we'll get together with other MoveOn members and supporters from the ACLU and People for the American Way to read the Bill of Rights to remind Congress about what's at stake and that it's their job to defend the Constitution. And, we'll invite the media and get our message out to millions of Americans," MoveOn.org said.

MoveOn.org said a Justice Department review of the NSA surveillance program is a start - but it's not enough. It wants Congress to also investigate the president's "dangerous power grab."

MoveOn.org is telling supporters that the Bush administration is "nervous" about what an investigation will find and is therefore pressuring Republicans to "back off." It quotes press reports saying that the Bush administration is lobbying against a congressional probe of the NSA program.

"By attending a vigil on the 22nd, you'll be sending a clear message to your elected officials: they need to do their job, defend the Constitution and hold the president accountable, and you're watching to make sure they do," MoveOn.org concluded.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; doj; dojprobe; nsa; spying
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1 posted on 02/20/2006 9:25:11 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

I too am uncomfortable with the government listening in on Americans' phone conversations without a warrant. Then again I am not a terrorist supporter so I am in little danger.


2 posted on 02/20/2006 9:26:49 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: Reagan Man
MoveOn.org should change thier name to Clueless.R.us


3 posted on 02/20/2006 9:30:55 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: trubluolyguy
I too am uncomfortable with the government listening in on Americans' phone conversations without a warrant

It's not simply American's conversation with just anybody. The other end of the call is in a foreign countryand suspected of being a terrorist.

It's amazing that people insist on getting it wrong and/or phrasing it in such a way that it sounds like they'd be listening on a call to Aunt Margaret.

4 posted on 02/20/2006 9:35:23 AM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: capt. norm

Try reading my whole post genius.


5 posted on 02/20/2006 9:37:13 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: trubluolyguy
Each sentence in your post partially negates the other. Reminds me of John Kerry.

I didn't think name-calling belongs on this forum, but if you must, go ahead.

6 posted on 02/20/2006 9:42:09 AM PST by capt. norm (Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue)
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To: Reagan Man

More crap from the clueless libs.

Face it. Lame ones. Your days are numbered.

Your antics are destined to be determined to be sedition. Then we can visit you in prison when we want a laugh.


7 posted on 02/20/2006 9:45:06 AM PST by CBart95
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To: darkwing104
Good morning.
"MoveOn.org should change thier name to Clueless.R.us"

How about We B The Enemy?

Michael Frazier
8 posted on 02/20/2006 9:47:35 AM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Reagan Man

The left will be relentless in this regard. It is one of the new key parts of their impeachment jihad.


9 posted on 02/20/2006 10:01:02 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: trubluolyguy
I too am uncomfortable with the government listening in on Americans' phone conversations without a warrant. Then again I am not a terrorist supporter so I am in little danger.

The part of this that is uncomfortable is that another administration with this kind of power would be very dangerous.

Think of Hillary as president with the power to listen in on conversations that she thinks are dangerous to her concept of the American way of life.

10 posted on 02/20/2006 10:07:13 AM PST by oldbrowser (We must act today in order to preserve tomorrow......R.R)
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To: Reagan Man
"Liberals Demand Congressional Probe of NSA Wiretap Program"

Sounds good to me. Let's start with Roosevelt, then Kennedy, then Johnson and end with Bush.

11 posted on 02/20/2006 10:10:23 AM PST by moonman
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To: Reagan Man

I think the only thing they should "probe" is why we are wasting money wiretapping these jugheads when you can hear the same crap in theaters, class rooms, malls, sporting arenas and even at NASCAR races. Americans are obsessed with gabbing on telephones 24/7 and are proud to let the whole world hear what they are gabbing about.


12 posted on 02/20/2006 11:10:30 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: capt. norm

Each sentence in your post partially negates the other. Reminds me of John Kerry.
I didn't think name-calling belongs on this forum, but if you must, go ahead.




Now imagine the President is Hillary Clinton.

You still have no problem with it at all?


13 posted on 02/20/2006 11:44:00 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: moonman

The RATS and the media can stamp their feet like children and demand until the cows come home. They have none of the committee chairmanships, the hearings have been pulled, and they are over. Tough noogies.


14 posted on 02/20/2006 11:47:31 AM PST by mwl1
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To: trubluolyguy
Now imagine the President is Hillary Clinton. You still have no problem with it at all?

Actually, I have no problem with President Hillary Clinton listening on international phone calls between known al Qaeda functionaries overseas and people in the US.

In fact, international electronic communications are fair game for the intelligence agencies of any nation, and have been since the invention of international electronic communications.

15 posted on 02/20/2006 11:48:03 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Actually, I have no problem with President Hillary Clinton listening on international phone calls between known al Qaeda functionaries overseas and people in the US.




And of course you know that is all she would use that for, not for political purposes against prospective opponents. Because who ever heard of the Clintons doing anything shady?


16 posted on 02/20/2006 11:49:44 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: trubluolyguy
And of course you know that is all she would use that for, not for political purposes against prospective opponents. Because who ever heard of the Clintons doing anything shady?

I’m sorry, but you are making absolutely zero sense.

You are suggesting that we should have a problem with the current administration legally listening in on international electronic communications with known al Qaeda operatives, because of the fact that a possible future Administration might possibly conduct illegal activities totally unrelated to what we are currently discussing?

What exactly would “having a problem” with the Bush Administration’s current activities accomplish in regard to possible future crimes by imagined future administrations?

17 posted on 02/20/2006 11:55:15 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

A) I think it is good to spy on the terrorists and their supporters in or out of this country. But why is getting a warrant all of a sudden too hard to do?

B) I DO question how smart this power is for ANY President to have. I feel that if we were talking about a President Kerry right now, a lot more people on this and other conservative sights would be screaming bloody murder.


18 posted on 02/20/2006 12:02:10 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Islam, Religion of Peace and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: trubluolyguy
A) I think it is good to spy on the terrorists and their supporters in or out of this country. But why is getting a warrant all of a sudden too hard to do?

For one thing, the executive branch is coequal with the legislative branch. Article II makes the President Commander in Chief of the armed forces. In matters regarding the conduct of intelligence gathering against our enemies during wartime, the legislative branch has no power to limit the power of the commander-in-chief.

B) I DO question how smart this power is for ANY President to have.

What power? The power to intercept international communications between people in the US and known operatives of our foreign enemies?!? The President has ALWAYS had this power and the other two branches of government have no power to restrict it. What you are suggesting would require a Constitutional Amendment.

I feel that if we were talking about a President Kerry right now, a lot more people on this and other conservative sights would be screaming bloody murder.

President Kerry would retain all rights under the Constitution that President Bush and all President’s before him have had.

19 posted on 02/20/2006 12:12:55 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Reagan Man

Have you or anyone even heard a so called legal expert cite just what laws were violated?


20 posted on 02/20/2006 12:15:35 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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