[2banana]

give it up. this field is dead as a profession for americans, its all slowly going offshore, and young people headed for college best see this trend and move into something else that is going to be around, if they want to have a career and earn a decent living.

Like what - become a plumber or electrician or working for the government...?

[beef]

Like what - become a plumber or electrician

 

What's the difference between that and engineering, except that you can't send your plumbing to India to get it fixed? Like it or not, engineering is a skilled trade.  Nothing more.  They want you to think you are a "professional"  so they don't have to pay overtime.  The lot of the engineer would improve significantly if we would just accept that fact and demand to be treated accordingly. It has worked well for me.

[oceanview]

government jobs are very stable, offer good pensions, etc.

I can't tell you how many young people I talk to - want to be teachers. we had better plan on class sizes of 8-9 kids, to employ them all.