Posted on 02/20/2006 8:24:23 AM PST by avg_freeper
he's suggesting that his skills are being outsourced to China/India.
yeah, get that all the time. I can't hire foreign nationals so it's not an issue. The single biggest reason people aren't willing to talk to me about employment is because they are unwilling to relocate. There is nothing wrong with that, it's a reasonable choice. But don't complain you can't find a job if you have conditions on the employment.
$110k is about right, but would be about 20% above what the national labs are currently paying. Went through the process there, but then they lost the requisition (had to do a massive internal hire due to losing a contract).
$120k is about right in the private sector, but in the private sector nobody needs that kind of horsepower these days. Why innovate when you can improve your profits by outsourcing?
you have freep mail
The average age of an engineer in my company is over 50, kinda blows your theory doesn't it?
Spot on HolgerDansk! After my former employer eliminated all corporate engineering, I started my own consulting firm and 90% of my business was with my former employer. It made sense for them and it worked very well for me for about 3 years.
For the last 8+ years my former employer has been losing business closing down ~30 facilities and now that 90% of a big market is down to about zilch as they are not funding any major projects. This was a typical, dad built the business, dad dies, son with his MBA runs the business into the ground.
This company was, at one time under the old man's control, the world's largest printing firm. Now they are closer to #3 and in a very steep decline. It is a shame how much damage a single person can do to a thriving company.
Drivel. Pure unadultrated drivel.
I now someone who is a manager at a large US chain restaurant - makes $85K a year. you can make $85K a year as a Mercedes Benz mechanic, and they pay to send you to factory training.
look at the numbers you are putting up there - what kid is going to study for a PhD in engineering to make a top end salary of $110K?
they beg on their knees here also....until the market slows down, then they throw us out.
A week? Why give 'em a week when they only need 5.475 days? Sheesh.
Suggesting? In 2003 HP closed the research division of HP Labs in Palo Alto. Most of this was the old DEC research group, which had a 100x investment track record over 20 years. One month later, Carly Fiorina announced that HP was opening a new research lab in Singapore because "we can't find enough talented researchers in Silicon Valley". Is that suggesting enough?
[...]unwilling to relocate.
Are you being turned down because of an undesirable location, or because of the financial risks of relocation?
read post 53.
Seems like the teacher's unions have the same class size in mind.
Northern Virginia so you decide if it is desirable or not. There are no risks since I hire for the Fed and we don't let people go when the economy shifts. In fact, our biggest problem is that once you have the clearances the offers from private industry are compelling and we lose people.
The operative term is "starting," not "top end."
One month later, Carly Fiorina announced that HP was opening a new research lab in Singapore because "we can't find enough talented researchers in Silicon Valley". Is that suggesting enough?
And now she is gone, the market adjusts........
Hmmm! That's tempting but only if I get a Mercedes to drive, just for continuing education you understand. {;o)
they beg on their knees here also....until the market slows down, then they throw us out.
That's why there are endless consulting groups for hard to find engineering skills.
You work for SMA and you always seem to have a job, yet I can't find a loads engineer with a TS to save my life.
Too late. The buildings, including our blessed machine shop(!), are now occupied by the "service sector" -- Citibank. Most of the people are living on home equity. A few have found jobs at Google, writing code that anyone with a BSCS could write. Just as many are now selling insurance or real estate.
LLNL just did a huge layoff last year. And what happens when the Democrats get into office again? Research is "corporate welfare", and has to compete for funding against "people with needs". Have you tried applying for an NSF grant lately?
Government funding depends on the budget priorities of those in power, and to date, the Bush Administration hasn't had the time to correct the disaster that was the Clinton Administration.
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