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Wal-Mart ordered to carry 'morning-after' pill [great interview by conservative]
MSNBC ^ | 2/20/2006 | Tucker Carlson transcript

Posted on 02/20/2006 7:59:43 AM PST by XR7

Should the government really be telling businesses what products they can stock on their shelves? That‘s debatable, but it is happening.

Wal-Mart was ordered this week by the Massachusetts Board of Pharmacy to carry the morning after pill. It‘s an emergency contraceptive and a commercial one. The directive came after three women, backed by abortion rights groups, sued Wal-Mart to carry the pill in its Massachusetts stores.

Dr. Rebecca Guy is one of those women. Dr. Guy, along with her attorney Mr. Sam Perkins, joined Tucker Carlson to discuss the case.

CARLSON: Doctor, why should government be telling businesses what they can and cannot sell? Or why should anyone be forcing businesses to sell things they don‘t want to sell?

...You don‘t own Wal-Mart. I mean, you‘re not—right. You don‘t have a business relationship with Wal-Mart, I assume. Wal-Mart is owned by its stock holders. And so why shouldn‘t they get to decide what Wal-Mart sells? I guess I‘m missing this.

...But she can go somewhere else and buy it...How is it that you get to choose what a store sells? You could make the same argument about grocery stores. I need to eat to live, right? But I‘m not allowed to tell a grocery store what has to sell, and neither is government—yet.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortofacients; babykillers; babykilling; chooselife; feminazis; moralabsolutes; morningafterpill; nags; naral; now; pharmacy; radicalfeminism; radicalfeminists; retail; ru476; ru486; walmart
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To: Mr. Silverback
but the morning after pill and RU-486 are very different medications.

preaching to the choir.
161 posted on 02/21/2006 4:13:34 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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To: XR7

"For now"? How long term are we talking about? I took it from 1969-1982, and it's now 2006. In my lifetime, at least, that's loooooong term.


162 posted on 02/21/2006 4:58:17 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Mr. Silverback

You don't know that to be the case, you're just positing a "what if".


163 posted on 02/21/2006 5:01:23 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Mr. Silverback

"Are you saying you really believe that if a Wal-Mart refuses to fill this script, the woman will be unable to obtain the drug?"

No. If you had followed the thread, you would have seen that was a general conversation about using the pill versus waiting longer to confirm and deal with a pregnancy. I was quite specific in another post that I did not think Wal-mart had to sell it.


164 posted on 02/21/2006 5:03:59 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: rhombus
"I think it does matter, if the decision had been made by Walmart itself I think they would have stood on stronger ground."

Until recently that was not the case. Pharmacists take an oath, not unlike the Hippocratic oath, to do no harm. Employers, almost to a one, understand that the oath supersedes any employment contract and allow them to decline based on their interpretation of the oath.

This oath is going down and it will not be long before all doctors are required to perform abortions, even if they think they do harm.

After all, it's just an oath, certainly not anything that might interfere with the desire of the almighty state or the right in the constitution to kill babies.

165 posted on 02/21/2006 5:20:59 AM PST by Proud_texan ("Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater)
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To: Proud_texan
Employers, almost to a one, understand that the oath supersedes any employment contract and allow them to decline based on their interpretation of the oath.

Do they? At CVS? At Rite Aid? Or are you just writing that because it sounds good?

166 posted on 02/21/2006 6:38:21 AM PST by rhombus
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To: XR7

I noticed in my local paper this morning that the Connecticut Attorney General plans to follow the People's Republlic of Massachusetts in this Jacobin crusade against private property rights. These elitist Left-Utopians are about coercing us all to "virtue", or at least their version of it. Naturally, the drive to "re-educate" us dovetails nicely with the quest to destroy "Evil" Wal-Mart, a bastion of free market capitalism. Organized Labor seeks to impose wage controls and mandated benefit packages. Radical feminists shout that they have a "right" to purchase morning after birth control products where ever they choose. What if the stockholders and managing officers of the chain deem this product unsafe and too great a liablility or, God forbid, ultimately unprofitable? What will be next, only free range chicken and tofu ice cream available at the grocery store? Perhaps the FREEGANS (They're real I swear, check it out at: http://freegan.info/ )can force all the garbage collection companies to provide picnic tables with all of their dumpsters. Smoking is now being referred in the public school health classes as a form of "Child Abuse". The willingness of the Jacobin, do-gooder, busybodies to impose the tyranny of their views on others is infinite. They KNOW they're right. They feel no obligation to attempt rational persuasion in the marketplace of ideas. They can simply use governmental fiat to seize your home, control your diet, brainwash your kids, and now, tell a business what it must stock on its shelves. We're lucky to have such wise commissars guarding the People's interests.


167 posted on 02/21/2006 7:12:04 AM PST by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: Mr. Silverback

sigh....


168 posted on 02/21/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: CharlesThe Hammer
That Freegan site - LOL!
Take a look at the guy hitchhiking.
Can you imagine how bad your car interior would smell the minute he got in?
169 posted on 02/21/2006 7:33:17 AM PST by XR7
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To: Mr. Silverback
Of course, because "pro-choice" does not mean a person gets to choose. It means liberals get to chose for you.

These type of rulings make clear that the REAL "pro-choice" position is that people MUST pay for, assist with, and commit abortions on demand --- objecting taxpayers, doctors, nurses, and pharmacists cannot "choose" to not participate.

Interestingly, I suspect the same people have no problem with consciousinist (sp?) objectors in the Army and/or tax protesters that refuse to pay taxes because it funds the military.
170 posted on 02/21/2006 7:40:02 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: Hildy
Of course I think the government should keep their noses out of it, I just personally think it's hypocritical.

Based on what? Have you asked any of these people why they think what they think?

Children are born thinking that the world revolves around them. Some seem to make it to adulthood with this fallacy intact.

171 posted on 02/21/2006 8:22:57 AM PST by gogeo
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To: rhombus
Don't know about Rite Aid because they're aren't in any my area but they did at Walgreen, CVS and Eckerd when I checked about a year ago.

Based on what I've read about these cases Walgreen's has changed their policy and no longer allows the pharmacist any personal latitude.

But then the absence of a news story doesn't mean the others haven't either but it seems like the targets have been Walgreen's and, of course, the core of the evil empire, Wal-Mart. I'm sure they'll get around to all of them sooner or later until their agenda is satisfied.

172 posted on 02/21/2006 8:33:18 AM PST by Proud_texan ("Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater)
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To: gogeo

What are you talking about? I haven't a clue. When it comes to this issue, some of you lose all sense of proportion and decorum.


173 posted on 02/21/2006 8:41:05 AM PST by Hildy (The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth)
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To: zarf
A pharmacy should make all legal products available to those with perscriptions, the gubmint should STFU.

????? Who is making pharmacies carry all these drugs if it is not the government? What about drugs nobody uses anymore, must a pharmacy care those?

174 posted on 02/21/2006 8:44:02 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Hildy
You're judging, not me. I called your qualifications for doing so into question. What knowledge do you have of their moral and thought processes that enable you to conclude hypocrisy is present?

You don't, of course. You can merely say that it doesn't make sense to you. There's quite a leap from that to...They're hypocrites!

Most adults understand there's a difference between "I don't understand this," and "This doesn't make any sense."

I hope I was clear enough for you.

175 posted on 02/21/2006 8:47:42 AM PST by gogeo
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To: XR7
Republicans and Republican lawyers are too soft. They don't know how to play hard ball.

I'm actually ashamed to be on the Right, when I am.

For 100 years the Left has owned the Right. It began with the Federal Income Tax and then continued heavy handedly with Roe V Wade.

What a disgrace.

176 posted on 02/21/2006 8:56:30 AM PST by Idisarthur
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To: Mr. Silverback

Like anything else the libs do, it is the good intentions that count. P!ss on any senced or results.


177 posted on 02/21/2006 3:54:35 PM PST by 05 Mustang GT Rocks
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To: Proud_texan

No doubt Walmart was targeted because it's the big dog. I support a store's ability to refuse to carry any product they don't want to. I also support the right of employees who don't like their employer's policies to pursue employment elsewhere.


178 posted on 02/21/2006 4:10:35 PM PST by rhombus
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To: cgk
You forgot the "love my abortions" movement.

Certainement, mon ami.

179 posted on 02/21/2006 7:28:51 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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To: fromscratchmom
But if it makes you happy to ignore the reality of how these things happen and what other choices could be made--well its sort of a free country--but of course once your side wins and the government is a tyrannical monster that forces its own ways on all its subjects you may have some real problems with your views, because it is unlikely that such a government will honor the views of the idiot ideologues who helped it grow to such excesses of power.

I find it bizarre that you get that from people desiring the end of baby-killing. You speak as if the issue at hand is whether people will drive battery-powered cars or something.

180 posted on 02/21/2006 8:52:34 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (GOP Blend Coffee--"Coffee for Conservative Taste!" Go to www.gopetc.com)
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