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1 posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:13 AM PST by Dark Skies
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We tolerate satanism ... but not human sacrifice. We accept Mormanisn but not polygamy. The same needs to apply to Islam ... we will tolerate the cult (barely) as long as those who practice it become and remain NON -VIOLENT


243 posted on 02/20/2006 9:18:40 AM PST by clamper1797 (We are right to take alarm at the first experiment upon our liberties)
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To: Dark Skies

The real question here should be:

Is Islam a religion or is it something else?

I believe it is something else.


274 posted on 02/20/2006 9:28:20 AM PST by Beckwith (The liberal press has picked sides ... and they have sided with the Islamofascists)
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What is a 'religion'?


279 posted on 02/20/2006 9:29:34 AM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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Well, I'm conflicted on this. On the one hand, Islam has been violent and destructive from the moment of its origins. It's not just a question of a few bad apples or people falling away from their real religion. Muhammed himself set an evil example.

On the other hand, I agree with those who say they have met Muslims, and that they seem to be decent and honorable people.

What I will say, is that this issue needs to be raised and discussed. If Islam is like the Ku Klux Klan, then it needs to be banned or expelled. If Islam really had honorable, peaceful, tolerant adherants, then they need to be told to start acting to rein in their friends.

In India the British went through both experiences. On the one hand, in the Great Mutiny Muslim soldiers rose up, violated their oaths of service, and murdered their officers, wives and children in the name of Allah. On the other hand, some Muslim regiments remained loyal, and fought to suppress the mutineers. I'm not sure what the ultimate lesson of all that was.

But the one thing we can't permit is to allow it to fester, or to allow Muslim extremist organizations to speak in the name of America's Muslims, as they are doing now. It's a big problem.


284 posted on 02/20/2006 9:31:07 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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It won't work and is a slippery slope. Freedom of religion is a basic human right and should be honored, but . . . They will just go underground.

I'm fed up with the lie that it is a religion of peace. Everybody knows that is not true. It's pap for the masses.

Those in the US who practice the religion may not pose an immediate danger, but most of them support terrorism around the world. It's terrible that we have to spy on mosques and some churches. That is hypocritical, and I hate hypocrisy, but what else can we do?

If they had a proven track record that they can live in peace, I wouldn't have such a problem with it. But they don't. They are a scourge of the entire planet.

Whatever is done, if anything is done, will be too little, too late.

287 posted on 02/20/2006 9:32:02 AM PST by Aliska
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"The best course of action is to make public displays of Islam and certain of its practices illegal in Western nations."

Warner Todd Huston is about 114 years behind the times.

Islam has already been ruled illegal in America.

NYSSC, (about) 1892.

Look it up.

295 posted on 02/20/2006 9:34:41 AM PST by nightdriver
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We can ban the "klan" but not Christianity. Same goes for the Muslims.

That said..their numbers within the US should be kept down until it is proven that the terror war is over.

299 posted on 02/20/2006 9:36:03 AM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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Judge told: Islam illegal religion
Christian group prosecuted under 'tolerance act' turns tables

A Christian group prosecuted under an Australian state's new religious hatred law told a court Islam is an illegal religion because it preaches violence against Christians and Jews.

Turning the tables on its accuser, defenders of Catch the Fire Ministries argued in court that Christianity in Australia has special protection under the constitution, reported The Age daily newspaper of Melbourne.

Lawyer David Perkins told a civil tribunal if the state of Victoria's Racial and Religious Tolerance Act of 2001 curbs the teaching of Christian doctrine it is invalid. He further claimed Australia's blasphemy law was intended to protect only Christianity.

The law refers to "lawful religion," which disqualifies Islam, because it preaches violence, Perkins emphasized.
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37204


300 posted on 02/20/2006 9:36:06 AM PST by EBH (Islam is not a religion, it is a Theocracy. The sooner ya'll understand that the better.)
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There is a parallel of sorts in the USA that might be used as a template for action. The Ku klux Klan.

Good example. The way the KKK was taken down was by being made fun of... it became an embarrassment to be associated with such a lame organization.

A radio show was involved - they got the Klan buzzwords and mocked them as idiots.

That's the answer. Radical Muslims need to be marginalized. Not feared, not taken directly on, but laughed at... Like the Klan, Radical Muslims use the same macho honor, chip on the shoulder, control freak approach to life. Laughing at them hits them in their weak spot... They love a fight - it's why they recruit in prisons. They love the battle and death. Taking them straight on is feeding the sickness...

Cartoons, mocking the more idiotic ways, and plain laughter will drive the radicals out...

323 posted on 02/20/2006 9:48:03 AM PST by GOPJ (Quisling editors show all the nobility of crack whores over cartoon publication.)
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Bump


339 posted on 02/20/2006 9:55:42 AM PST by fanfan (I'd still rather hunt with Cheney, than drive with Kennedy.)
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Many Christians (not all) look forward to that day when Jesus Christ physically returns to earth and establishes His kingdom...nothing about killing those who disagree.

Can anyone tell me what the "endgame" of the moderate Muslim is? What is the goal of their religion?

365 posted on 02/20/2006 10:14:14 AM PST by who knows what evil? (New England...the Sodom and Gomorrah of the 21st Century, and they're proud of it!)
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There is a parallel of sorts in the USA that might be used as a template for action

What about Branch Dravidian? I begin to wonder if the Muslims are stockpoiling weapons in their Mosques.

379 posted on 02/20/2006 10:28:00 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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Emphatically. No more Muslims allowed in the U.S. They are a clear and present danger to western civilization and our way of life. Ban them.


399 posted on 02/20/2006 10:42:43 AM PST by RichardW
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bump


402 posted on 02/20/2006 10:44:12 AM PST by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has. The question is faith in what?)
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Sounds like are far more sane and sensible response than Islam's response to the cartoon.


404 posted on 02/20/2006 10:45:03 AM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (Keep the adults in charge of Congress.)
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bttt


413 posted on 02/20/2006 10:51:04 AM PST by meema (I am a Conservative Traditional Republican, NOT an elitist, sexist , cynic or right wing extremist!)
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NO!!!


419 posted on 02/20/2006 10:55:41 AM PST by sam I am
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The author is suffering from some delusions. For example: He references when the KKK was put down in the USA. It's never been illegal to be a member of the KKK, no matter what the author thinks.

You cannot outlaw a religion. It's not possible. At best, you can outlaw the open practice of a religion. Not the same thing at all.

431 posted on 02/20/2006 11:01:14 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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No. We only need to ensure the laws that islam violates are prosecuted. Laws such as murder, child abuse, bombings, etc. Hell, just about everything bad about Islam is already outlawed.


447 posted on 02/20/2006 11:09:02 AM PST by CodeToad
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Islam has become the KKK of the 21st century.

I've figured that the Muslims are so tolerated in Germany and France is
that they are really just the new anti-semite organization, but with
the respectable veneer of religiosity.

I wouldn't be suprised that a number of Germans and French that can't
join the Neo-Nazis or resurrect a Vichy regime (respectively)
are just happy to let their imported Muslims do their talking for them.
452 posted on 02/20/2006 11:10:33 AM PST by VOA
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