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Making Islam illegal -- is it the West's only choice?
Renew America ^ | 2/19/2006 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 02/20/2006 7:46:11 AM PST by Dark Skies

When President Bush gave his "axis of evil" speech he went out of his way to make the world understand that it isn't a war with Islam itself that we were joining — and I say joining because the war had been started by the Jihadists decades before. And, in observance to our Western principles, that must be the correct way to view our conflagration with radical Islam.

Let's face facts, it certainly is uncomfortable to a Westerner who has been brought up on tolerance, freedom of religion, and liberty to contemplate a war against an entire religion. But are we approaching a time when Western nations won't have a choice but to target Islam itself in certain ways to keep their own people safe. The best course of action is to make public displays of Islam and certain of its practices illegal in Western nations.

So, the question becomes are we at that time now? Are we fast approaching a time when Mosques will be closed and banned? Have we come to a time when Islamic literature is turned away from our borders? Have the childish and dangerous reactions of Muslims to this cartoon in a Danish newspaper proven that Islam cannot be trusted to be a vital, peaceful, and law-abiding segment of society?

It is looking like yes is the answer to these queries.

We are already approaching this today. In Ontario they have officially outlawed Muslim Sharia law, that law that uses religious precepts to enforce moral and society codes of conduct. And Muslim "family councils" have been stopped where local community groups may supplement Canadian law with their local custom.

Several members of the John Howard administration in Australia have spoken out against Islamic clashes with Western notions of law and societal comportment many times over the last few years.

Recently Howard himself said, "I do think there is this particular complication because there is a fragment which is utterly antagonistic to our kind of society, and that is a difficulty ... You can't find any equivalent in Italian, or Greek, or Lebanese, or Chinese or Baltic immigration to Australia. There is no equivalent of raving on about jihad, but that is the major problem."

Muslims routinely destroy property, threaten death and bodily harm to those who speak out against them, and they constantly fund terrorism throughout the world. In Syria they have burnt an embassy, in Europe Muslims have been responsible for murdering people who have written out against Islam or made movies, and other forms of art. These actions are also approved by Islamic teachers (Imams) and religious leaders, not just undertaken by warped loners claiming to represent Islam quite against the will of the majority or authority.

With this ridiculous cartoon issue, we have seen that Islam has no sense of perspective. In the west parody or satire is seen as not only common, but completely harmless for the most part. And religion is not immune to parody and satire, though even in the west most people are often uncomfortable with religious satire. Usually only people filled with hate attack religion in parody and most in the West instinctively know this. As a result, most people dismiss such parody as foolishness and bad taste.

But with Muslims overreacting — in western eyes at least — to this silly cartoon issue in the way they have, it becomes nearly impossible for Westerners to view Islam as a peaceful religion, but more as a vicious hate group itself. And that perception is justified with the actions that Muslims have increasingly perpetrated over the ensuing years. So, we find that Islam presents a danger to the safety of the populace all too often. It is violent, oppressive, and reactionary.

But, what is to be done about it? We have been raised to feel that religion should be left untouched by government. Freedom of religion is at the very core of our beliefs. And this concept is an important one to uphold. So, how can we honestly and without hypocrisy begin to look toward making Islam illegal?

There is a parallel of sorts in the USA that might be used as a template for action. The Ku klux Klan.

After the Civil War ended, the KKK arose from the ashes of war as an advocacy group for the disenfranchised white voter in the south. But it quickly became a terrorist organization bent on taking out revenge on the south's newly freed black population for having lost the war. It got so bad that even one of the original organizers, C.S. Cavalry General Nathan Bedford Forrest, denounced the organization and quit it in disgust.

But as the late 1800s rolled on and the south began to re-enter the Union as full partners in government, the KKK began to lose steam and prominence. For a time it subsided. But as the 20th century neared, it re-emerged and this time became a nationwide and powerful force taking on the flavor of religious, civic and racial duty. The KKK became invested in government and claimed millions of members nation wide.

In the 1920s, however, it became too much for a liberty loving country to allow the KKK to any longer exist. In Indiana, the entire state government was scandalized by their fealty to Indiana's Klan leader who had raped and beaten his secretary on a train trip. Violence against and frequent lynching of southern blacks became so pervasive that Congress finally acted and banned the Klan. The organization collapsed never again to reclaim the power and prominence it once had.

Now, the KKK has always based its precepts on Christianity, as well as racial identity. It also reacted with violence, rallies, death threats and killing when it was threatened. It careened far away from being a mere "idea" or religious theology and became a terrorist organization. And it became a terrorist organization even though literally millions of Americans that belonged to or identified with the Klan were not themselves violent, evil, or dangerous citizens.

The leadership of the Klan supported violence. The leadership preached violence. The leadership planned and fomented it. Therefore, it had to go because it became a danger to every law-abiding citizen, whether they agreed with the racial and religious concepts the Klan espoused or not.

Islam has become the KKK of the 21st century. The sooner we awake to this truth and take steps to ban the religion, or somehow curtail its pernicious influence the better. The west is going to have to put sever restrictions on Islamic Mosques and public display of Islam. Further, devout Muslims should not be allowed to hold public office (though it certainly should not become a racial issue — sins of the father should not be visited upon the sons).

This is no religious purge as in centuries past. In the past religions were banned to be replaced by the state sponsored sect and believers of the banned religion were mistreated, tortured, unduly taxed, and terrorized. This is absolutely not the model the west would follow by banning aspects of Islam today. No religion is replacing Islam and no one is suggesting that Muslims be mistreated. But the creed to which they hold is fast becoming the most dangerous one in the world today. It is a fine line that we walk to consider banning Islam, but the safety of society is at risk not to do so.

This is not an easy conclusion at which to arrive. But if we continue to turn a blind eye to the danger that Islam presents to the west, we are signing our own death warrants.

The KKK was put down in the USA and made powerless for the same reason. Communism was destroyed for the same reason, as well. Islam is a danger to the world.

Unfortunately, it is just that simple.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim; sharia; wot; yes
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To: lemura

"We are in a state of war."

With our own citizens?

"You do realize, don't you, that during the WWII, your type of advocacy would lead to a visit by the FBI, no?"

I wish that your advocacy would lead to a visit by survivors of the 442nd Regimental Combat Team to teach you the errors of your ways.


521 posted on 02/20/2006 11:39:27 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: MineralMan
On what planet is the mafia a religion?

I never said the Mafia was a religion (although there are some who might dispute that), I just said membership in a group with criminal or subversive intents/actions has previosuly been enough to get you watched. And this despite the constitution's guarantee of freedom of association and freedom of assembly.

522 posted on 02/20/2006 11:39:58 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: JCEccles

>Muslim children are NOT the evil<

Brainwashing to be evil is permanent. Muslim children will grow up to be THE evil. Many at a very early age would give their lives to kill "the infidel". Do not be naive.


523 posted on 02/20/2006 11:40:11 AM PST by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: null and void
In that picture, what exactly was created with islamic technology?

What kind of double-speak is this? Religions have technology now? Is there a Jewish techonology? A Christian technology? I'd love to know what Buddhist techonology is.

524 posted on 02/20/2006 11:40:30 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: MineralMan
"Am I one of those atheists..."

What you want to make of your life is between you and your God and/or the vast void. It's a free country. :)

525 posted on 02/20/2006 11:40:42 AM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: Dark Skies
Anyone seen this yet?
526 posted on 02/20/2006 11:41:35 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Austin Willard Wright
Free Republic is a very different place than it was in the 1990s when freepers distrusted the state and upheld individual liberty.

But, but 9/11 changed everything, I guess that includes the civil rights of all non-White-Anglo-Saxon-(Fill in your choice of acceptible Christian/Jewish religion)*

Non acceptible religions shall include- Islam, Mormon, Bhuddist, and any others that James Dobson likes to refer to as "Isms, not religions".

:rolleyes at Far right CINO's {Christians in name only)
527 posted on 02/20/2006 11:41:50 AM PST by BritExPatInFla
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To: Sans-Culotte; MineralMan; sakic; Melas
As is true today in the case of radical Islam, in the 1930s there was an agonizing reluctance for the US to acknowledge the threat of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan and do something about it until it was almost too late. Then as now there were the Mineral Mans, sakics, melases who sought to downplay the threat and to accuse those who saw clearly the threat as racists or alarmists.

This enemy is little different because it is not confined to classic national or natural bounderies. That doesn't make it any less dangerous.

528 posted on 02/20/2006 11:42:08 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: Melas
Buddhist technology?

They ride in their Ooomnibus' es.(OK! Lame lame lame lame)
529 posted on 02/20/2006 11:42:47 AM PST by najida (Me arguing for logic and against emotion is like Mother Teresa becoming a pole dancer.)
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To: MineralMan
Are you really this clueless, or do you just pretend?

If you want to play, you should bone up just a wee bit first.

530 posted on 02/20/2006 11:43:11 AM PST by lemura
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To: lemura

A mistake that we paid for. Thank you for bringing up our illegal and unconstitutional treatment of Americans of Japanese descent as an example of what we never wish to do again.


531 posted on 02/20/2006 11:43:17 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Noumenon

Hope I'm on your jury.


532 posted on 02/20/2006 11:43:45 AM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Dark Skies
Islam is not a religion it is a CULT.
533 posted on 02/20/2006 11:44:44 AM PST by Dustbunny (Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans)
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To: bikepacker67

the "moderates" tacitly SUPPORT the terrorists thru donations and silence.

On Target! Furthermore, they use the apologists to futher their agenda by claiming to be victims of the extremist in the USA. RIGHT OUT OF THE Al-Queda handbook!!

/SPIT


534 posted on 02/20/2006 11:45:25 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Bud, I know plenty of people who were either locked up, had parents that were locked up, or had a relative(s) in the 442. Doesn't change the facts at all.


535 posted on 02/20/2006 11:45:28 AM PST by lemura
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To: MineralMan

I've got to get out of the woods more often.I can almost bet that I seen Ten in a yard the other day.

I know what you're saying,Sad state of affairs,seems like grounds to pull out of the so-called Union.


536 posted on 02/20/2006 11:45:29 AM PST by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

That sure looks photo shoped to me. Did you notice that the s's, l's and the e's are exactly the same?


537 posted on 02/20/2006 11:45:45 AM PST by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: Freedom_no_exceptions
and fight back when attacked

Nope, the war is underway. Take the battle to the enemy and stay on the offense

538 posted on 02/20/2006 11:45:52 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Melas

One more example of the great restraint that was displayed post 9/11. Those things never happened.


539 posted on 02/20/2006 11:46:05 AM PST by Earthdweller ("West to Islam" Cake. Butter your liberals, slowly cook France, stir in Europe then watch it rise.)
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To: Noumenon

"That time is coming."

Wanna kill Muslims? Let me give you the phone number of a military recruiter in your area. They're looking for warriors just now.

Come to my neighborhood and attack my Muslim neighbor? You'll find me there, and I've already done my military service.

My neighbor's committed no crimes. He doesn't want to overthrow anything. But he is a Muslim...one of your enemies, to hear you rant.

He's my neighbor. You are not. So, exercise caution if you come for him.


540 posted on 02/20/2006 11:47:31 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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