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To: BJungNan

Undeniably brought the world the best system of government and justice - even if in some parts of the world is at first only appied to him


I think maybe you are a little bit biased in youre history.

A few examples, The incas had a governmental system that granted everyone food and housing, the asians had a political system far more advanced than that of contemporary europeans, the sumerians and egyptians had a vast governmental system which distributed power and responsibility to reach every corner or their lands.

Europeans and american descendents where not the ones that invented succesfull governments. They did had a lot of influence in modern times due to colonisation and trading.


76 posted on 02/20/2006 6:38:14 AM PST by S0122017
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To: S0122017

"I think maybe you are a little bit biased in youre history...."

I think you're perhaps being willfully biased in your views of the same.

Certainly, any civilization that lasted as long as Egypt, China or the Central American Empires must, by definition, have a superior form of government. However, that term 'superior' is relative; you don't know what came before it, and you cannot speculate on what would have evolved from it given time and technological advances. You also could not recreate those sorts of governments in the modern world. Circumstances, scientific advancement, philosophical and technologal changes would make the concept of a Pharoh impossible today.

So what if the Incas distributed food to everyone? How many died at the whim of the 'Emperor' or religious authority? The underlying mechanism that made the socity run was death, often voluntary, and always considered a religious imperative.

So what if the Chinese managed to create the worlds first civil service and unified an empire consisting of some 26 racial sub-groups and languages? The underlying mechanism of that society was overwhelming physical force in the name of elevating a single human being to god-like status.

So what if Egypt left behind a storied past of architechural wonders? Almost all of them are related to death, and quite specifically, to the death of the aristocracy, not the common man. Had the labor that went into their construction been used to benefit the common people, or was redirected inbto other areas, who knows what Egypt could have become? The underlying mechanism for Egyptian society was still death-worship.

I think perhaps, we're splitting hairs on the issue of what is the most desirable and what can be accomplished, given the limitations mankind has to suffer with at any given time.

I'll agree with Churchill when he said "Democracy is the least worst form of government devised by man..."


88 posted on 02/20/2006 10:25:49 AM PST by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: S0122017
Europeans and american descendents where not the ones that invented succesfull governments.

Big difference between what you said and what I said. I said the best system of government and justice.

131 posted on 02/20/2006 11:52:38 PM PST by BJungNan
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