Plant closing ends run for traditional Winchester rifles

The Times-Tribune (Scranton, PA) ^ | 19 February 2006

[CrazyIvan]

UGHHH! You are right, that is some UGLY. Russian onion held up by Doric columns atop American "Industrial Revolution" brick building. If there's such a thing as an architectural hermaphrodite, this is it.

[CrazyIvan]

"My father had a Model 70 Featherweight chambered in 30-06 that he purchased new in '59 for $109. When he found out the was going to die of prostate cancer, he gave it to my twin brother in the original cardboard box with the cancelled check and the purchase receipt..."

My grandfather left me a '54 model 70 in 220 Swift with the factory stainless barrel. I have the original manual for it and on the inside of the cover in his handwriting is 7/30/54 $109.

[Sender]

Does anyone know when they changed to an aluminum receiver? My 94 is old but aluminum, has no safety.

[yarddog]

No it is not aluminum. They used some steel alloy which did not retain the bluing very well. It is very common to see model 94's made since 1964 with receivers looking almost grey.

[Sender]

Hmm, then that is what I have, an alloy receiver that has lost most of its bluing. It's a smooth action and sweet shooter with nice wood.

[NewJerseyJoe]

"Winchester '73" -- great old movie with Jimmy Stewart. Hope I'll be able to purchase one of these classics someday -- if their owners are willing to part with them!

[Chewbacca]

I personally prefer the looks and hitting power of the Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 or the one in Marlin's own .450 caliber.

[TLOne]

A while back the local K-Mart ran a sale on the Model 94.

I have used a borrowed one and liked it's handyness.

The new in box one was so ugly that I passed with no regrets.

Get an older one with decent walnut not the bargain "hardwood" stocked version.

Just my opinion.

[Atlas Sneezed]

The ballistics of the 7.62 X 39 and the 30-30 are very similar, one difference being that the tube mag of the lever actions prohibits sharp nosed bullets.

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That truism is no more.

Hornady has ressurected the 30-30 with its new soft but pointed tip bullets. They reach much farther than before.

[reagandemo]

I had a model 12 shotgun when I was young. It was a good solid shooter but kicked like a mule. Traded it for a S&W pistol. I am still kicking myself in the arse over that.

[Old Professer]

I had a Savage Model 99EG, 25-35, octagonal 32 inch barrel, curly maple stock and forepiece, pawned it to buy diapers in 1965; when I told my son about it, he said that if I had asked him before I pawned it, he would have gone naked for the first 2 years instead.

[Old Professer]

If you're talking about the DVD, I think AMC bought the last copy; at least they have been showing it 36 hours a day some weekends.

[billhilly]

Me too. I started duck hunting on the Misissippi flyway with a model twelve that belonged to an uncle. I thought it was better than candy when I was around 8 or 9.

Twenty years or so ago I found a Model 12 that was chambered for 3 inch shells and had a solid rib. Other than a rotting gun case, that was probably bought at the same time, the gun was in great condition. The action was so stiff that it was apparant that the gun had seen little use. I have turkey hunted with it a few times and duck a couple of times. I know how much harder it shoots than more modern guns, but it just fits me. It has not been fired for a few years now, and I have already promised it. The other one is 2 and 3/4 inch, and the first modified model twelve I have seen.

They cost an arm and a leg if in good condition, but probably sold new for around $50. I'm talking about in the forties and fifties. In my youth.

[Wolfie]

Foreign manufacturers don't have to pony up for employee health care. The U.S. won't be able to compete until we unburden our employers by nationlizing health care like our foreign competitors.

[reagandemo]

Yep mine was chambered for 3" shells too. Too bad I had a brain fade and sold it. The gun was too hard a hitting gun for me. A gunsmith told me that the angle of the stock to the barrel was the reason. Back then I did not fully appreciate the value of heirlooms. It was passed down to me from my father. My Grandfather bought it new.

[billhilly]

That was a treasure. I'm sorry, as you are, that you let it go.

[billhilly]

Where do you live. I see that you are a southerner.

[Ironclad]

I must be grateful that I no longer have the whitetail's persepctive of the end of the weapon.

[Henchster]

Wild Boar or Wolverine? {;^)

[CrazyIvan]

The ballistics of the 7.62 X 39 and the 30-30 are very similar, one difference being that the tube mag of the lever actions prohibits sharp nosed bullets.

---

That truism is no more.

Hornady has ressurected the 30-30 with its new soft but pointed tip bullets. They reach much farther than before.


Bad wording on my part. I should have said "hard pointed bullets". Have you used any of the soft tip, I'd like to know your results. I've used the similar ballistic tip in my 220 Swift and love them. Here in flat IL. where my 94 is not legal for game I load mostly with the varmint type flat hollow point that looks more like a pistol bullet. They're good for plinking and varmints and are good ricochet insurance.