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To: longshadow
When I contemplate how little we know, my brain goes slack, I get a great feeling, and I wet my pants.
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51 posted on 02/20/2006 11:30:05 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
When I contemplate how little we know, my brain goes slack, I get a great feeling, and I wet my pants.

Improper use of the word "luddite" will soil your diapers every time. Opining about how little or how much we know has little to do with how aggressively we pursue and embrace new knowledge.

Wait, scratch that - someone who is already convinced that we know nearly everything might be more easily tempted to resist spending more money on new science to gain new knowledge that simply may NOT be out there (why spend 90% of your money on that last 10% of knowledge?). Maybe there IS a valid use of that word to be found in this thread...to describe those who find "dangerous" the concept that there might be even MORE knowledge awaiting science than has already been discovered.
60 posted on 02/20/2006 11:57:46 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: PatrickHenry
Yet another example of "how little" we know about the Universe:

[text from source (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html)]:

As with the COBE temperature measurement, the agreement between the predicted shape of the CMBR power spectrum and the actual observations is staggering. The balloon-borne experiments (particularly BOOMERang, MAXIMA, and DASI) were able to provide convincing detections of the first and second acoustic peaks before WMAP, but none of those experiments were able to map a large enough area of the sky to match with the COBE DMR data. WMAP bridged that gap and provided much tighter measurement of the positions of the first and second peaks. This was a major confirmation of not only the Lambda CDM version of BBT, but also the basic picture of how the cosmos transitioned from an early radiation-dominated, plasma-filled universe to the matter-dominated universe where most of the large scale structure we see today began to form.

Another stunning example of actual empirical data confirming the theoretical predictions of the cosmological models currently in use by scientists.

Some people seem to be bent on celebrating their ignorance; I prefer to celebrate the light that science has been able to shed on the workings of the Universe. One point of view is negative, and one positive. As our knowledge increases, the negative view will have less and less and less to celebrate, while the positive view, which I hold, will have more an more and more to celebrate.

If our knowledge of the Universe is so paltry, how is that the angular power spectrum predictions Lamda-CDM model fit the actual measured data so well? Again, I'm not holding my breath for answers from the "it's a mystery" crowd. I DO predict another round of whining and hysterical obfuscation from the usual suspects.

62 posted on 02/20/2006 1:40:32 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: PatrickHenry
The mysteries of the Universe are apparently undeciperable:

MAP Data Released!

11 Feb 2003 - The results from the first year of observing by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe were announced today at a Space Science Update in the auditorium of NASA HQ. Important results include:


source:

Yet Another Link that Doesn't Bite!"

76 posted on 02/20/2006 5:20:10 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his ninth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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