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Fox and Friends spent less than 5 mins. this morning on this story, I doubt others will mention it at all.

Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMDs
Newsmax ^ | Feb. 18 2006 | Kenneth R. Timmerman

Posted on 02/19/2006 2:21:08 AM EST by Tut

Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMDs

A top Pentagon official who was responsible for tracking Saddam Hussein's weapons programs before and after the 2003 liberation of Iraq, has provided the first-ever account of how Saddam Hussein "cleaned up" his weapons of mass destruction stockpiles to prevent the United States from discovering them.

"The short answer to the question of where the WMDs Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John. A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org)

"They were moved by Russian Spetsnaz (special forces) units out of uniform, that were specifically sent to Iraq to move the weaponry and eradicate any evidence of its existence," he said.

Shaw has dealt with weapons-related issues and export controls as a U.S. government official for 30 years, and was serving as deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security when the events he described today occurred.

He called the evacuation of Saddam's WMD stockpiles "a well-orchestrated campaign using two neighboring client states with which the Russian leadership had a long time security relationship."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...

This basically shoots down the whole "there were no WMDs in Iraq" argument, but not let facts get in the ways of politics.

74 posted on 02/19/2006 6:13:07 AM PST by McGruff
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thank you for the update on the medias coverage this morning of the Summit/tapes.

I have been posting a bit on this on other threads as I can find no permanent 'home' for this type of information as it comes in today.

Thus far this am, both CNN and CNNHeadline News are reporting that according to their translation of the tapes, Saddam is saying:

"Terrorism is coming...I told the American a long time before, I told them that in the future, there will be terrorism with wmds..... This story is coming, but NOT from Iraq. "(summary and emphasis mine)

I have 'concluded' that regardless of what is found to be on the tapes re: wmds, the liberal spin will be, "of course Saddam had wmds, he used them on the Kurds, everyone knows that you idiots, however, there is NO evidence on any of the tapes that Saddam was an imminent threat to America. In fact, Saddam actually warned us that an attack was coming, but not from Iraq."

Is this going to be yet another non-story?


123 posted on 02/19/2006 6:28:35 AM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: McGruff

"Ex-Official: Russia Moved Saddam's WMDs"

I'd seen the thread, but didn't know it had even gotten a nod from Fox & Friends. I've just given up on them because of Julian.


137 posted on 02/19/2006 6:32:54 AM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: McGruff; All
Fox and Friends spent less than 5 mins. this morning on this story, I doubt others will mention it at all. Great catch McGruff. Not only was the WMD story glossed over for several months by the msm(Gen Sada is almost a memory only a few weeks later) but another important blurb on the Barrett Report was ignored where we learned that any congress critter at all who has the cajones can post the entire report, should he or she have the cajones to do it. But the biggest fiasco of the week was how we let the MSM set the agenda on Able Danger. Will someone please tell me how Dick Cheney's hunting accident(cold blooded drunken killer that Dick is)could possibly be of more import to the nation than what Col. Shaffer is currently going through?(Shaffer is being ravaged by the DOD and was not fired only because Curt Weldon threatened to quit) and What's more important than the hearings on Able Danger in congress(that c-spam "forgot" to air live)last Wednesday?. Answer-we let the msm/old/antiuqe/lamestream,left wing/ media set the agenda for the country one more time. Quite frankly when Britt Hume did his sterling interview with VP Cheney(anyone surprised FNC was picked) and Dick said more or less "I shot him I take full responsibility, the story ended and the msm knew it. But they just couldn't stand it that our guy was so straight forward(while the cowards on the left never admit anything anytime, anywhere) and up front and fearless they had to drag it out for the foreseeable future. We fell into the trap of responding to everyone of their lame attempts to get bush (in this case get Dick Cheney>/i>). We let the ususals set the agenda by responding all the time to every stooopid little comment made by the rabid Matthew's,Neanderthal Dave, and the rest of the left wing DNC/ swilling groupies on the left. Guess you can tell I am a bit pissed. Earlier in the week I believe Peach(if memory serves) said we do need to respond to msm claims about Cheney and to counter with the truth and of course she is right. But to what degree? We should not constantly let them set the agenda, and we did once more time. The guiltiest of parties were in talk radio where the usual suspects from Rush down constantly responded to claims of "Dick Cheney the mad hunter" all week long while key aspects of Able Danger(where we now know that we had 13 photos of Mohammed Atta months before 911 in a terrorist cell in NYC and the 911 commission never even mentioned it or was even briefed on AD)) were left basically untouched except for a few noble attempts by, of all media, CNX, with Lou Dobbs(who gets it) and a scant few others. If you will notice Dobbs (love him or hate him) lets no one set his agenda < a key thing we need to learn, Lou is all border agenda all the time and is fast becoming a huge patriot on what should be common sense issues. Does CNX have to do so to regain any audience at all? Probably, but at least it is being done. If you would like to get updated on what is going on with Able Danger, even listen to some of the PDF files recordings of the House Wed. hearings et cet. it's all right her for you on FR, as usual FR always get the job done. Here are a few links you can check out. Able Danger had two live threads, part I and part III right her on fr. In addition I urge all freedom loving Americans/Freepers to check out the Able Danger Blog and take a special note of the right hand corner where it's now possible to help out Col Shaffer financially. The Able Danger Blog is located at http://www.abledangerbloglcom/ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1578997/posts will get you to the hearings and the above plus 1580931/posts will get you to part III. Let's set our own agendas we don't need the msm to tell us what the news is anymore.
409 posted on 02/19/2006 7:54:32 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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