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I can only speak for my brother, his wife and their friends who are avid Willowcreekers here near Chicago.

They have as much information about the Bible as to be dangerous, and are the sort that give all of Christianity a bad name (the ONLY thing that matters is the Sermon on the Mound to them, all other rules be damned, especially if it infringes on their pot smoking lifestyle).

This church is HUGE they pay Bill Clinton to speak there, they are pro abortion, anti gun, anti Bush, pro Kerry, Pro Clinton, anti Catholic, pro homosexual, anti War, etc. Not just them, thats the doctrine of the church et large it seems.

When our boys born, they were in our face about the clipping because we told our parents we weren't going to do it after consulting with our Catholic Parish.

They went nuts, claimed it was in the Bible. This is the same church that also claims abortion is legal in the Bible because a fetus is not life, but War is illegal, because its killing.

Willowcreek is my ONLY contact with any mega church, and after they started funneling dollars into the dem party, I researched and got more than a taste of what my brother was into.

The clipping was just one tip of the iceberg about their twisted biblical teachings.

This church is HUGE they pay Bill Clinton to speak there, they are pro abortion, anti gun, anti Bush, pro Kerry, Pro Clinton, anti Catholic, pro homosexual, anti War, etc

I'm shocked. I've never heard of such a thing. If your brother et al are representative, then I predict eventual collapse, a la the Anglicans.

My megachurch is totally opposite on every all of those points. Even the Catholic thing... it's the most Catholic-friendly Protestant church I've ever attended; in fact Jim Caviezel, who lives nearby, was invited as a guest preacher one Sunday.

I should note, my pastor publicly condemned the idea of "closing on Christmas Sunday", an abomination spawned at WillowCreek. He said, "Some churches are closing on Christmas --we're adding extra services on Christmas", followed by the usual call to invite unbelievers to hear the gospel message at the one time of year that most of them are willing to listen.