[jennyp]

There are actually pro-evo web sites that encourage their crowd to only talk about natural selection and not the random mutation part. I think they are now depending on recombination for all the changes.

I'd like to see a cite for that site.

I'll be charitable and say that I suspect your Morton's Demon is causing you to read much that isn't there into whatever pro-evo site you came across.

As far as anybody knows, the occurrences of point mutations, gene duplications or deletions, and recombinations, all happen without regard to their fitness to the organism. In that sense, they're all random mutations.

[microgood]

I'd like to see a cite for that site.

I have to go outside now but I will dig it (or them) up a little later today. I remember because I was surprised how blatant they were being.