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To: microgood
Another area they have changed the language is in explaining the mechanism. Neo-Darwinists are being told to deemphasize the randomness of evolution and spin natural selection as the main guiding force. Random mutation is not being mentioned as part of the mechanism much anymore.

No, your side kept repeating the lie that evolution was random by assiduosly ignoring the nonrandom aspect of selection. When we correct your lie in public, you perceive it as us denying random mutation altogether.

This Harry Truman quote comes to mind: "I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell."

16 posted on 02/18/2006 1:50:24 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: The Chicago Manual of Style, 14th ed.)
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To: jennyp

"by assiduosly ignoring the nonrandom aspect of selection"
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What do you mean by non-random? Certainly you are not proposing an intelligent force as is the case when humans breed variations of dogs and cattle. So you must mean something else....environmental factors?

This doesn't help much in explaining the evolution of the eye or other complex organs.

And it certainly doesn't explain the cambrian explosion when fully developed creatures suddenly appeared with no ancestors in the precambrian, nor does it explain any other sudden appearance of new creatures with no ancestors, a phenomenon that prompted Gould to come up with the idea of puncturated equilibrium.


26 posted on 02/18/2006 2:01:43 PM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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To: jennyp
No, your side kept repeating the lie that evolution was random by assiduosly ignoring the nonrandom aspect of selection. When we correct your lie in public, you perceive it as us denying random mutation altogether.

I do not know what you mean by my side, but I have always acknowledged that the theory states both random mutation or recombination and natural selection as the mechanism. Natural selection, however, needs something to select. That is where the random part of evolution comes in, at least for the larger changes.

There are actually pro-evo web sites that encourage their crowd to only talk about natural selection and not the random mutation part. I think they are now depending on recombination for all the changes.
27 posted on 02/18/2006 2:04:56 PM PST by microgood
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