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Scholars rate worst presidential errors
AP/beaufortgazette ^ | February 18 2006 | ELIZABETH DUNBAR

Posted on 02/18/2006 12:20:02 PM PST by ncountylee

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To: ncountylee

Nixon imposing price controls was worse than the Watergate coverup.

And where's Jimmy Carter? Being a wimp with Iran, giving away the Panama Canal, 14% interest rates, 20% mortgages, skyrocketing gasoline prices, and general "malaise" - does that not count for something????


21 posted on 02/18/2006 12:33:39 PM PST by D-Chivas
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To: COEXERJ145

... Stand corrected....still a Democrat Fiasco... Wasn't Yalta the League of Nations conference?


22 posted on 02/18/2006 12:34:56 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: ncountylee

Where does appointing Souter fall in the lisat?


23 posted on 02/18/2006 12:35:25 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: nuconvert

Where is Carter? (I second that!)


24 posted on 02/18/2006 12:35:37 PM PST by weaver
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Bush *saying* no new taxes when he knew he couldn't keep that promise.


25 posted on 02/18/2006 12:36:02 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: nuconvert

Or Lincoln?


26 posted on 02/18/2006 12:36:11 PM PST by WayneS (Follow the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Bob Eimiller
The League of Nations was long dead by that point.

The United Nations was already in the works well before Yalta.

27 posted on 02/18/2006 12:36:18 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Pat Buchanan lost a family member in the holocaust. The man fell out of a guard tower.)
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To: weaver

Actually replace Clitnton-Moanica with Eisenhower-Earl Warren to the Supreme Court.


28 posted on 02/18/2006 12:36:48 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: Cagey

I thought that Iran-Contra was a master stroke.Consider this;We sell arms to the Iranians who get themselves killed in great numbers.The money from these sales finances weapons for anti-communist forces who then kill commies in great numbers.This is a Win-Win situation for us,and darn good stewardship of our funds.


29 posted on 02/18/2006 12:37:26 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: WayneS

There are those who'd put Lincoln #1 for "stripping citizens of a foreign country of their property rights."

I'm not one of them tho!


30 posted on 02/18/2006 12:37:42 PM PST by Phil Connors
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To: ncountylee

They forgot about Herby Hoover signing protectionist legislation that greatly contributed to the severity and length of the Great Depression. In fact Herby and Franklin Roosevelt should get a joint award for making the depression worst through their meddling.


31 posted on 02/18/2006 12:37:54 PM PST by Busywhiskers ("...moral principle, the sine qua non of an orderly society." --Judge Edith H. Jones)
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To: ncountylee

Jimmy Carter could have, should have, picked up all ten top spots on his lonesome.


32 posted on 02/18/2006 12:40:02 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: ncountylee
Really poorly informed judgments. Lame, one might say. I wonder when someone will poll the living presidents and ask what was the worst advice they ever received from their academic "experts and advisors."
33 posted on 02/18/2006 12:40:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ncountylee

It wasn't the fact that Kennedy allowed the Bay of Pigs. It was that he encouraged it and promised help and didn't come through.


34 posted on 02/18/2006 12:42:21 PM PST by tiki
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To: ncountylee

#9 is one of those non-event events, a curiosity only.


35 posted on 02/18/2006 12:44:45 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: ncountylee
Jimmy Carter's Iranian Crisis...I have a feeling our Grandkids will be paying for that one.


36 posted on 02/18/2006 12:45:29 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I was looking at list, and thinking about the rating -

Many posters bring up FDR, Potsdam, etc -

Note that if you ask "What were worst US Presidential actions for leftists/communists" you get a very differnet look -

For instance - Potsdam was good for commies.
Starting/(escalating) Vietnam war? Commies end up winning and US embarrassed - thus not bad.
Reagan and Contras - bad for commies - on list
Clinton and Iran - good for anti-americans - not on list.
Nixon's non-impeachment rated higher than Clintoon's actual impeachment, and subsequent loss of respect for law in US? Just typical leftist spin.

I'm no historian - I just noted a bit of a trend. The freepers treated the question as if "bad" meant bad for the US/ I'm not sure the hoistorians did.


37 posted on 02/18/2006 12:45:40 PM PST by Mr. Rational
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To: ncountylee
I guess the question is whether those blunders really hurt the country on a long term basis or were just temporary set-backs.

Buchanan's inaction and Johnson's mess in Vietnam really did do the nation lasting harm. Nixon's Watergate cover-up had consequences that took us a decade or so to get over. You could add Peirce's incompetence in letting Kansas-Nebraska go through.

Iran-Contra and Clinton-Lewinsky look like blips in comparison. Jefferson's Embargo and Kennedy's Bay of Pigs were horrible blunders, but may not have done the country or the world lasting harm. Or am I missing something?

Madison's decision to attack Canada was likewise one of the stupidest things any US president has countenanced, but the country doesn't seem to have had much trouble putting it behind us. Calling our second war with Britain a draw did a lot for our national pride, even if it did mean getting our capital burned. Go figure.

The two blunders that are most questionable are Andrew Johnson's and Woodrow Wilson. Would any course of action have worked during Reconstruction? Johnson may have taken the morally objectionable course, but would a different approach really have brought about lasting and beneficial changes?

As for Wilson, did he err more in not compromising to put the Versailles treaty through or in getting into the First World War to begin with? And yes, there were other decisions -- FDR's approach to the Depression, and his infatuation with Stalin, Eisenhower's support for coups in Iran and Guatemala -- that might also qualify as important presidential blunders.

38 posted on 02/18/2006 12:47:12 PM PST by x
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To: ncountylee

Baloney, from the very beginning. As if the Civil War could've been avoided. It was brewing since the Founding of the nation itself.


39 posted on 02/18/2006 12:51:16 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: tiki

Then again, Bush I encouraged Shia uprisings and didn't come through either. Should have whacked Saddam while we were there.


40 posted on 02/18/2006 12:51:59 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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