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To: Luis Gonzalez
What a laugh coming from a supporter of Calhoun's idea that people were NOT created equal, and that rights belonged to society, not individuals.

Please don't project your beliefs upon others - I believe that ever person on this earth is a descendant of Adam and Eve, brothers and sisters in the eyes of God and myself. Individuals have God-given rights, societies protect those rights. Individuals have the right to assemble together, and form whatever government they choose. That is the sentiments of the founders, of John C. Calhoun, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, William Patterson, and a plethora of others.

It is the belief of Lincoln, liberals, socialists, and communists that people cannot form the government of their choice, and they're the ones that wage war to prevent it, or post on web sites against it.

403 posted on 02/24/2006 1:17:58 PM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: 4CJ
"Please don't project your beliefs upon others - I believe that ever person on this earth is a descendant of Adam..."

That may be what YOU believe, but that's not what Calhoun believed, it wasn't what the Confederacy believed, and it certainly wasn't at the core of beliefs on which the Confederacy stood.

That core of beliefs was at complete odds with every ideal that this nation was founded on, and against everythig that the Constitution stood for.

The Confederacy did not embrace the Constitution, they did not believe in the principles set forth in the Declaration of Independence, they unilaterally rejected everything the nation was founded on.

"Our new government is founded…upon the great truth that the Negro is not the equal to the white man. That slavery—the subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition." -- Alexander Stephens

"They (Founders) rested upon the assumption of the equality of the races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the idea of government built upon it." -- Alexander Stephens

"There is not a word of truth in it (Declaration of Independence). All men are not created. According to the Bible, only two, a man and a woman, ever were, and of these, one was pronounced subordinate to the other." -- John C. Calhoun

"It is a great and dangerous error to suppose that all people are equally entitled to liberty." -- John C. Calhoun

From the Confederate Constitution:

"If the Republican party with its platform of principles, the main feature of which is the abolition of slavery and, therefore, the destruction of the South, carries the country at the next Presidential election, shall we remain in the Union, or form a separate Confederacy? This is the great, grave issue. It is not who shall be President, it is not which party shall rule -- it is a question of political and social existence." -- Alfred P. Aldrich, South Carolina legislator

"I want Cuba . . . I want Tamaulipas, Potosi, and one or two other Mexican States; and I want them all for the same reason -- for the planting and spreading of slavery." -- Albert Gallatin Brown, U.S. Senator from Mississippi.

"Democratic liberty exists solely because we have slaves . . . freedom is not possible without slavery." -- Richmond Enquirer, 1856

"The triumphs of Christianity rest this very hour upon slavery; and slavery depends on the triumphs of the South . . . This war is the servant of slavery." -- Methodist Rev. John T. Wightman, preaching at Yorkville, South Carolina

448 posted on 02/24/2006 6:47:54 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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