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To: MamaTexan

That's telling him!

By the way, thanks for the discussion on the Bill of Rights.

I guess I would find the idea of the Bill of Rights NOT applying to the States easier to accept if the Federal government was actually being run in accordance with the ideas expressed in the highlighted passages from the Federalist which you cite.

I tend to interpret our Constitution quite literally. So, since the Second Amendment doesn't actually contain the words "Congress shall make no law infringing on the right of the people to keep and bear arms", and instead simply says the right "shall not be infringed", I assume it applies to the entirety of our government(s).

You, at least, have provided a coherent argument to the contrary which I shall digest and consider. Thanks again.


135 posted on 02/22/2006 11:03:36 AM PST by WayneS (Follow the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th.)
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To: WayneS
By the way, thanks for the discussion on the Bill of Rights.

Very much my pleasure!

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would find the idea of the Bill of Rights NOT applying to the States easier to accept if the Federal government was actually being run in accordance with the ideas expressed in the highlighted passages from the Federalist which you cite.

LOL! Took me many years to recover from my public education.

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So, since the Second Amendment doesn't actually contain the words "Congress shall make no law infringing on the right of the people to keep and bear arms", and instead simply says the right "shall not be infringed", I assume it applies to the entirety of our government(s).

Nope. Only to the government of the federal enclave known as the United States, plus it's 'jurisdiction' consisting of it's forts, ports arsenals and any property deeded to the United States by a State.

The Constitution says exactly what it means and means exactly what it says. Thats why you'll find similar words like citizen and person in one clause, yet they mean entirely two different things. Just like State and United States.

It's a brilliant piece of work!

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You, at least, have provided a coherent argument to the contrary which I shall digest and consider. Thanks again.

FReepers like you are why I love FR! Rational discussions are wonderful things!

190 posted on 02/22/2006 1:25:03 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am NOT a ~legal entity~, nor am I a *person* as created by law!)
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