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To: pacelvi

every job is unionized? how about management of the information systems and computers used to operate elements of the port. or are you going to tell me its done with union workers on an abacus.

we don't need a UAE company operating US ports, why take a chance. why should we bother have to construct oversight for all of the things you claim they cannot do, to make sure they aren't doing them.


602 posted on 02/18/2006 5:33:27 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview; pacelvi

JMO, I will take the knowledge and expertise of a person who has worked in the industry(pacelvi) anyday over someone who makes broad and hyperbolic generalizations(oceanview, chuckie schumer, michael savage, etc.etc)


603 posted on 02/18/2006 5:44:32 PM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: oceanview

>every job is unionized?

Probably all the outside jobs are. The office staff is mixed.

>how about management of the information systems and computers used to operate elements of the port.

Cargo release information is not inputed by the Port Operator staff. Cargo release information is transmitted electronically by the US Customs AMS system as well as the Ocean Carriers.

US Customs does not get its information from the Port Operators. US Customs is given its information by the Ship Line/NVOCC who gets it from the overseas Shipper, and is then confirmed by the Consignee when they file their US Customs Entry as well provide US Customs with the documents that collaborate the information.


> or are you going to tell me its done with union workers on an abacus.

If the union had its way, they would.



> we don't need a UAE company operating US ports

So what are you suggesting? Gov't interference in the free market?

It's already established that the Port Operator is not involved with cargo security, that's US Customs responsiblity , and everyone in the US (indivudals, domestic companies, foreign companies) is subordinate to the orders of Customs.

The Port Operator has no control or influence on the Customs Agents, the Port Operator only does the work that US Customs authorizes or orders to be done.



>, why take a chance.

You have yet to articulate what the specific risk is, other than your admitted ignorance.


> why should we bother have to construct oversight for all of the things you claim they cannot do,

The oversight constructed at the port is not to audit the work of the Port Operator for heaven's sake. The oversight is to enforce the taxation and cargo laws of the US as executed by the Federal Gov't Executive Agency, Customs and Border Protection in the Dept of Homeland Security.

Why you think the Port Operator is not from any factual basis.

Now that I provided you with these facts, you can go on to advocate your postition as if I never said them, or you can go to the numerious websites i cited and find out for yourself.



607 posted on 02/18/2006 5:50:27 PM PST by pacelvi
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